The Marshall Islands is an independent country. Probably you were thinking of the Northern Mariana Islands, which is even further away from the United States than the Marshall Islands.
--- On Thu, 12/23/10, Gaddie, Ronald K. <rkgaddie@ou.edu> wrote:
From: Gaddie, Ronald K. <rkgaddie@ou.edu>
Subject: Re: [EL] Revival of DC House Voting Rights Bill? (cross-posted to electionlaw list and to conlawprof list)
To: "Lori Minnite" <lminnite@gmail.com>, "Scarberry, Mark" <Mark.Scarberry@pepperdine.edu>
Cc: "Election Law" <election-law@mailman.lls.edu>, "Conlawprof@lists.ucla.edu" <Conlawprof@lists.ucla.edu>
Date: Thursday, December 23, 2010, 7:12 AM
Well, then, perhaps a broader amendment is required, to grant representation for Americans in territories, districts, and living abroad. Imagine campaigning in a district that went from Guam to the Marshall Islands to Saint John's!
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From: election-law-bounces@mailman.lls.edu [election-law-bounces@mailman.lls.edu] on behalf of Lori Minnite [lminnite@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 8:37 AM
To: Scarberry, Mark
Cc: Conlawprof@lists.ucla.edu; Election Law
Subject: Re: [EL] Revival of DC House Voting Rights Bill? (cross-posted to electionlaw list and to conlawprof list)
Prof. Scarberry:
What is the larger rationale for amending the Constitution to give D.C. residents a voting member in the House, but no representation in the Senate? You may argue that such an amendment falls short of granting D.C. statehood which would constitutionally compel
Senate representation, but I'm more interested in your ideas about (democratic) representation than the legal argument that might be used to justify them.
And if the Constitution were to be amended to grant D.C. residents voting membership in the House, how could such an amendment not also recognize such rights for the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or any U.S. territory (American Samoa, Northern Mariana, Guam,
U.S. Virgin Islands)?
And finally, how would such an amendment and the granting of voting membership in the House affect the electoral college?
Lori Minnite
On 12/23/2010 2:07 AM, Scarberry, Mark wrote:
Cross-posted to electionlaw list and to conlawprof list (with apologies for duplicates received by members of both lists):
The link below from Prof. Hasen's electionlaw blog suggests that another attempt to pass a DC House Voting Rights bill may be in the offing.
But I'm also convinced that DC should have a voting member in the House. The only way, in my view, that the District as an entity can be given a voting member in the House is by constitutional amendment (though perhaps residents
of the District might be permitted to vote as Marylanders in House elections if Congress and Maryland could agree on such a step). Most of the opposition to the DC House Voting Rights bill was on constitutional grounds, with the injustice of lack of representation
conceded. I think that makes it very possible that an amendment could be proposed and ratified. The substantial Republican majority in the upcoming Congress also will tend to temper GOP opposition; addition of one reliably Democratic district may not seem
so damaging to GOP prospects for continuing control of the House, especially given the likely additional GOP advantage that the decennial redistricting will provide.
What do list members think? On list comments (on either list) would be great. I'd also like to invite anyone to contact me who might be interested in joining a letter of support for such a constitutional amendment (to be sent
to the President and to congressional leaders).
An amendment granting DC not only a voting member in the House but also Senators would be a bridge too far and probably unwise, as I see it.
Would DC political leaders refuse to support a House-only amendment, for fear that a later amendment granting the District representation in the Senate would be precluded? (I suppose a House-only amendment would relieve much
of the "taxation without representation" pressure that powers current attempts to obtain congressional representation for the District, and maybe there are only so many times you can go to the amendment "well.")
Mark Scarberry
Mark S. Scarberry
Professor of Law
Pepperdine Univ. School of Law
December 21, 2010
..."D.C. Voting Rights Advocates Search for Partner State"
Roll Call offers
this report.
Posted by Rick Hasen at
08:28 PM
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