Actually, King County has really improved since the 2004 debacle. The
head of the elections is very competent and the county has greatly
improved its ballot handling procedures, as both Republicans and
Democrats will (probably) attest.
On a related note, though, I do note that the newly found votes in
Waukesha County included about 450 for Christine Gregoire.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: election-law-bounces@mailman.lls.edu
[mailto:election-law-bounces@mailman.lls.edu] On Behalf Of Lowenstein,
Daniel
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 6:11 PM
To: Smith, Brad; Larry Levine; election-law
Subject: Re: [EL] Wisc
I suspect Larry was referring to the initial omission of these
votes and the subsequent discovery of them, not the margin of Prosser's
gain. But Larry, if the County Clerk wants to look for a job someplace
where such practices are the custom, I'd recommend she apply to King
County, Washington.
Best,
Daniel H. Lowenstein
Director, Center for the Liberal Arts and Free Institutions
(CLAFI)
UCLA Law School
405 Hilgard
Los Angeles, California 90095-1476
310-825-5148
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From: election-law-bounces@mailman.lls.edu
[election-law-bounces@mailman.lls.edu] On Behalf Of Smith, Brad
[BSmith@law.capital.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 5:36 PM
To: Larry Levine; election-law
Subject: Re: [EL] Wisc
I don't think that your description is correct, Larry. As I understand
it (and I could be wrong, I'm just reading early press reports, and I've
not been on line today until now, having spent the day traveling from
New Orleans) she found some 14,000 plus votes, which resulted in a net
addition for Prosser of some 7500 votes - which would not be unlikely
for any 15K of votes in heavly Republican Waukesha County. More
precisely, the numbers were 10,859 for Prosser and 3456 for Kloppenberg
(another report I've seen says it was 11,008 for Prosser, see
www.jsonline.com/news/waukesha/119424759.html<http://www.jsonline.com/ne
ws/waukesha/119424759.html>.)
I can understand suspicion - certainly you'd find it in some Republicans
if the same type of correction occured in Dane County for a Democratic
gain - but that's a huge difference from just "finding" 7500+ votes all
going to the same candidate.
Ramona Kitzinger, Vice-Chair of the Waukesha County Democratic Party and
a member of the canvassing board, has apparently vouched for the new
results, although I've not seen that sourced - it appeared at National
Review online, which did not list their source.
As I have done often in the past, I urge both sides to be very cautious
with claims of "fraud." I said it back in 2000 and I've said it in
almost every contested election since. But you are correct that mistakes
and screw ups create suspicion.
Bradley A. Smith
Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault Designated Professor of Law
Capital University Law School
303 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43215
(614) 236-6317
http://www.law.capital.edu/Faculty/Bios/bsmith.asp
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From: election-law-bounces@mailman.lls.edu on behalf of Larry Levine
Sent: Thu 4/7/2011 7:46 PM
To: election-law
Subject: [EL] Wisc
Lo and behold if the County Clerk in Waukeshaw County, Wisc. didn't find
7,582 lost ballots, all for Prosser. She's applying for the job of
Secretary of State in Florida. If people have no confidence in the
electoral process it's not because of the candidates and campaigns. It's
because of screw ups by elections officials.
Larry
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