[EL] presidential primary ballot access is easy

[Jeff Hauser]

Newt Gingrich is heavily in debt, Santorum treading financial water --
their challenges might be even greater than Cain's.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Douglas Carver <dhmcarver at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can echo what Trevor wrote from the Democratic side -- I worked with
> Bill Richardson's ill-fated campaign, and it took substantial time,
> effort, and staffing to get on the various ballots.  I do not know
> about Cain's organization, but what little I have read seems to show
> that it is small, and possibly not up to this task.
>
> Douglas Carver
> Santa Fe, NM
>
> PS -- I apologize if this thread has moved on -- I am catching up on
> old posts today.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Trevor Potter <tpotter at capdale.com>
> wrote:
> > I always fear to disagree with Richard Winger on ballot access as he
> knows so much more than I. BUT as McCain general counsel I found ballot
> access a huge task. McCain had little money to spare throughout the
> primaries, so we had to rely on local volunteers. While some states allow a
> campaign to get on the primary ballot through the easy methods mention
> below, many require real legwork. We spent thousands (literally)of hours
> making sure we qualified in Indiana and Virginia.
> >
> >  On the Democratic side the Presidential candidates benefited from
> shared petition drives under local party auspices. That never occurs on the
> GOP side-the better financed candidates believe they have a competitive
> edge and do not want it diluted. As a result the RNC in 2008 played "fair"
> and provided absolutely no help to any campaign.
> >
> > Further, I am not clear if the "qualified for federal matching funds"
> ballot access option (enshrined in many stat's laws, and used by McCain
> last time even though he ended up not taking those funds) is being used by
> any GOP candidate this year. Does anyone know if any of the candidates has
> taken steps at the FEC to qualify? If not, the ballot access hurdle is
> significantly higher .
> > Trevor Potter
> >
> > Sent by Good Messaging (www.good.com)
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Richard Winger [mailto:richardwinger at yahoo.com]
> > Sent:   Thursday, October 20, 2011 07:08 PM Eastern Standard Time
> > To:     Jeff Hauser
> > Cc:     law-election at uci.edu
> > Subject:        [EL] presidential primary ballot access is easy
> >
> > No state will require Herman Cain, or any other Republican who is in the
> debates, to submit more than 3,000 signatures, except that Indiana requires
> 4,500 and Virginia requires 10,000.  Ballot access in presidential
> primaries, for candidates who are discussed in the news media, is automatic
> in about half the states, and in other states it is automatic for
> candidates who qualify for primary season matching funds or who pay a
> filing fee.
> >
> > Severe ballot access laws are reserved for outsiders, like independent
> candidates, minor parties, and presidential primary candidates in the major
> parties who aren't discussed in the news media and who don't qualify for
> primary season matching funds.
> >
> > Richard Winger
> >
> > 415-922-9779
> >
> > PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/20/11, Jeff Hauser <jeffhauser at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jeff Hauser <jeffhauser at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [EL] the wiliness of Herman Cain
> > To: richardwinger at yahoo.com
> > Cc: law-election at uci.edu
> > Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 3:52 PM
> >
> > Is there a good summary of the calendar of the GOP ballot access and
> whether cain has a real chance to get on all 50 GOP primary ballots?
> Because I wouldn't assume he will accomplish that.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Richard Winger <richardwinger at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I am starting to think Herman Cain has the same aptitude for
> presidential politics that Ronald Reagan had.
> >
> > Cain has sometimes taken extreme stands, but then he finds a way to back
> away.  The value of this is that when he initially takes the extreme stand,
> that makes an emotional connection with the voters who share that emotion.
> >
> >
> > For example, abortion.  Political Wire earlier today had a description
> of something he said somewhere recently, an interview or a speech.  He said
> he is totally pro-life, "no exceptions" for pregnancy caused by rape or
> incest.  But then in the next breath he says that it doesn't follow
> logically that his values should be enshrined in law and enforced on
> everyone else.
> >
> >
> > Gays in the military...first he was adamantly opposed to repealing Don't
> Ask Don't Tell.  But then later he says this is a
> >  settled issue and we should forget about it.
> >
> > On illegal immigrations, first he says he is so opposed to illegal
> immigrants, he wants an electrified fence.  But later he backs away.
> >
> > In each case, his initial extreme stand, in my opinion, makes an
> favorable emotional impact on voters who like to hear that, even though
> that voter knows inside that the extreme stand is not really sensible or
> viable.  So the voter now "likes" Herman Cain, because there has been a
> shared emotion.
> >
> >
> > Ronald Reagan did that also.  In his years as a spokesperson for General
> Electric, he was very, very anti-government.  When he got into office as
> Governor, of course he doubled the California state income tax, signed a
> bill liberalizing abortion, etc.  As president he was also pragmatic.
> >
> >
> > Another trait Reagan and Cain have in common is their sunny
> good-naturedness.  One would not see either one of them attacking a fellow
> >  Republican the way Romney and Perry have been attacking each other.
> >
> > Richard Winger
> >
> > 415-922-9779
> >
> > PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
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