[EL] Fwd: MAINE GOP UNCOVERS 19 ELECTION DAY REGISTRATIONS FROMONE MAINE HOTEL

Fri Sep 9 18:12:46 PDT 2011

Most states, including Michigan, require a physical address on a
driver's license and on a voter registration card, even if the voter
doesn't have a physical address (i.e. is homeless).

I learned the following when I wanted to put my PO Box number below on
my driver's license:  I'd be charged with a crime if I presented a
state driver's license to a police officer at a traffic stop that
lacked the required physical address.  The lady at the secretary of
state's office offered that she's put down "corner of Washington and
McClellan street" into the state driver's license database even though
there's no living structures there.  Such an update of driver's
license information in Michigan typically updates the voter
registration automatically as well.

Especially if Maine links driver's licenses with voter registrations
like Michigan does, a driver's licensing official in the example below
from Maine could well have been putting in a motel address 19
different times for folks showing up for driver's licenses without
presenting a physical address, either because they were in fact
homeless and had no physical address, or because they simply refused
to provide a physical address and the official presented the idea of
entering the motel address as a solution to de-escalate the kinds of
verbal confrontations that occur on these types of matters.  Based on
my experience in Michigan, the clerks are willing to input just about
anything, even if dubious or false, so long as it constitutes the
"physical" address as required by their interpretation of the various
laws. In addition, for perceived privacy reasons nineteen separate
people could have independently given the motel address to avoid
having to give out their real address.

Paul Lehto, J.D.

On 9/9/11, Bill Maurer <wmaurer at ij.org> wrote:
> I do think Holiday Inn Express should get rid of its "Free Continental
> Breakfast and Voter Registration" promotion, though.
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> It's also worth noting that, while Justin and Megan have raised much
> more important points about the efficacy of the voter fraud claims, if
> this had happened in Indiana their voter ID law wouldn't have anything
> to do with it.  In Indiana the address on the ID does not need to match
> the address where the voter is registered.
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> And to that point, six years ago, the Brennan Center released this
> Investigator's Guide to Voter Fraud
> <http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/Investigator%27s%20Guide%20to%20Vote
> r%20Fraud.pdf> .  It lists a few questions that would be useful to ask
> before accusing specific individuals of federal crimes.
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> Justin
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> On 9/9/2011 12:33 PM, Megan Donovan wrote:
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> I disagree with the assumption that this small amount of information
> indicates voter fraud. A Holiday Inn can be a residence. For just one
> example, hotels/motels are frequent post-foreclosure residences. And it
> wouldn't be unusual for a community of people in a similar situation to
> gravitate towards the same hotel/motel.  If someone is living in a
> Holiday Inn, does his/her right to vote depend upon whether s/he votes
> again in subsequent years? Of course not.
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> I do not have any knowledge about the Holiday Inn in this press release,
> but I am offering an alternative story that could share these facts.
> However, as it turns out, there's another plausible explanation...
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> "A simple telephone call to the Holiday Inn Express, where the voters
> had been living, revealed the truth. The voters were college students
> who were being housed at the Holiday Inn Express as their dormitory and
> they were legal voters in Maine. Their medical school had been destroyed
> in Hurricane Ivan and they had relocated to Maine to finish out their
> classes at St. Joseph's College."
> http://www.mainedems.org/571.html
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> It seems Webster's attack on student voters continues.
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> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:47 PM, <JBoppjr at aol.com> wrote:
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>     This looks like voter fraud that would have been prevented by
> requiring a voter ID.  It is doubtful that the people who voted for the
> people registered at this hotel would have had an ID that would match
> the hotel address and the voter's name.  Jim Bopp
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> MAINE GOP UNCOVERS 19 ELECTION DAY REGISTRATIONS FROM ONE MAINE HOTEL
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> AUGUSTA-An examination of the statewide voter list by the Maine
> Republican Party has revealed 19 individuals who registered to vote on
> Election Day, November 2, 2004, using the Holiday Inn Express in South
> Portland as their residence.  According to the Maine GOP research, all
> 19 individuals registered and voted on Election Day that year and have
> not voted since.
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> South Portland Holiday Inn Express
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> "Mainers should be very concerned that 19 individuals, who all listed
> the same hotel address, were able to register to vote and cast a ballot
> all on a busy Election Day.  Our town clerks are already overworked on
> Election Day, how can we expect them to verify that these people are
> legitimate Maine residents and haven't already voted elsewhere?" said
> Charlie Webster, Chairman of the Maine Republican Party.
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> Registration cards for the 19 hotel guests were provided by the South
> Portland Town Clerk's office and can be seen here
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> cards list 303 Sable Oaks Drive, the South Portland Holiday Inn Express,
> for the section titled "Street or Location Address (Where you live)."
> Six of the voting hotel guests also provide the hotel room number on the
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> According to many of the handwritten cards, hotel guest-voters were
> previously registered in states including California, Massachusetts, New
> Jersey, Maryland, Oklahoma, Texas, Florida, Illinois and Tennessee.
> According to the Maine Republican Party voter database, these
> individuals only voted in the highly contested 2004 general election.
> As of the end of August, all 19 individuals were still listed as active
> voters in the Maine Secretary of State voter database.
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> "Our town clerks need the time and tools to make sure our elections
> results are honest and every voter is an actual Maine resident.  With
> individual hotel-guests voting in elections, it is clear why 42 other
> states have an inspection period for voter registration and do not allow
> same day voter registration.
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> "We need to ask ourselves if someone is qualified to be a Maine voter
> just because they can say, 'I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last
> night?'" Webster said.
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