[EL] Oregon SoS Demands that Postal Service Stop Delivering Ballots with Insufficient Postage?

Scarberry, Mark Mark.Scarberry at pepperdine.edu
Sat Nov 3 15:51:57 PDT 2012


Aha! The letter from the Postmaster General that was attached to Doug's earlier post says that the postal service will deliver the ballots even if they don't have sufficient postage. It appears that the Postal Service will not insist that the clerks pay (or agree to pay) the postage that is due.

From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Scarberry, Mark
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 3:36 PM
To: Doug Hess; Dan Meek
Cc: Election Law
Subject: Re: [EL] Oregon SoS Demands that Postal Service Stop Delivering Ballots with Insufficient Postage?

If a ballot envelope comes in postage due, then the clerk may need to pay the postage in order actually to receive the envelope from the postal worker. I haven't gotten anything postage due in quite a while, but I don't think you can just take the letter or package and then refuse to pay the postage due amount. It may not be a matter of the clerk refusing to receive the ballot but instead of the postal worker refusing to deliver it.

From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu<mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Doug Hess
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 3:22 PM
To: Dan Meek
Cc: Election Law
Subject: Re: [EL] Oregon SoS Demands that Postal Service Stop Delivering Ballots with Insufficient Postage?

"Not accepting" as in refusing to receive them, however that is done, or as in destroying or tossing them? Or "not accepting" to mean they accept them but plan to not count them?

Douglas R. Hess, PhD
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Dan Meek <dan at meek.net<mailto:dan at meek.net>> wrote:
We know that some county clerks are currently not accepting the ballots postage due.

Dan Meek

503-293-9021<tel:503-293-9021>

dan at meek.net<mailto:dan at meek.net>

866-926-9646<tel:866-926-9646> fax


On 11/3/2012 12:50 PM, Doug Hess wrote:
In the letter on this issue the Post Master General (should we call him General, too?) points out that the state doesn't have to accept or count ballots arriving without sufficient postage (see second to last paragraph in letter in link below).

Not sure why he felt that was an area he needs to opine on! But it does raise the possibility that some county clerks, or whomever, won't count these ballots, now that they know that the USP will keep delivering them. Anybody sense a county might do that?

Where's Paul Gronke when you need him?

http://indparty.com/postmaster.pdf

Douglas R. Hess, PhD
Washington, DC
ph. 202-277-6400<tel:202-277-6400>
douglasrhess at gmail.com<mailto:douglasrhess at gmail.com>


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