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[JBoppjr at aol.com]

Before the controversy over the Voter ID, I thought the same thing -- that  
absentee voter fraud was the problem.  But I have changed my mind for two  
reasons:  (1) if someone, like these Obama campaign workers, would so  
willing commit voter fraud through the absentee process, why wouldn't they also  
do it on election day, if there were opportunities to do so without getting  
caught.  A person is either a crook or isn't. So, for instance, if you have 
 instant registration and then voting on election day, without a voter ID 
law,  then in precincts dominated by one party this seems like a prime  
opportunity.  (2) Has been the reaction of the opponents, particular the  
Democrats. I first thought that voter ID was a modest proposal all the way  around: 
it was dealing with a modest threat of voter fraud, but also  without a 
serious impediment to voting.  What happened is that  Democrat politician 
flipped out, calling it racist, claiming thousands would be  disenfranchised, 
etc, without reason. In other words, they "protest  too much." I figured we 
were on to something -- in person voter fraud  -- that was more serious than I 
thought.
 
In person voter fraud in such cases as I have mentioned is very hard to  
prove, but that does not mean that it does not happen.  From time to time,  
however, we see people like these Obama operatives who clearly are prepared to 
 commit voter fraud and it is just reasonable to suggest that they would do 
it in  person if they had a chance -- which voter ID laws, in large 
measure,  prevent.  Jim Bopp
 
 
In a message dated 10/12/2012 10:08:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lowenstein at law.ucla.edu writes:

I think the more sensible Democrats have claimed there is  no or virtually 
no voter fraud that can be avoided by a photo ID requirement,  not that 
there is no significant voter fraud at all.  I very much agree  with Rick and 
others who have said the biggest concern about voter fraud  arises from the 
widespread use of voting by mail, which gives rise not only to  potential 
fraud problems but, I believe, even worse problems of intimidation  and bribery. 
 Indeed, the reporter in the video is representing to vote,  fraudulently, 
in Florida by mail, not be impersonation.

Best,

Daniel H. Lowenstein
Director, Center for the Liberal Arts and Free Institutions  (CLAFI)
UCLA Law  School
405  Hilgard
Los Angeles,  California 90095-1476
310-825-5148


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Obama  campaign caught red handed participating in voter fraud by helping 
voters vote  in two different states in this election.  And some say there is 
no voter  fraud!  Jim Bopp
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