[EL] Check out New O'Keefe video: Obama campaign staffer caught helping a...

[John Tanner]

Deja vu.  I get the strangest sense that we've discussed this before

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:32 AM, <JBoppjr at aol.com> wrote:

> **
> Before the controversy over the Voter ID, I thought the same thing -- that
> absentee voter fraud was the problem.  But I have changed my mind for two
> reasons:  (1) if someone, like these Obama campaign workers, would so
> willing commit voter fraud through the absentee process, why wouldn't they
> also do it on election day, if there were opportunities to do so without
> getting caught.  A person is either a crook or isn't. So, for instance, if
> you have instant registration and then voting on election day, without a
> voter ID law, then in precincts dominated by one party this seems like a
> prime opportunity.  (2) Has been the reaction of the opponents, particular
> the Democrats. I first thought that voter ID was a modest proposal all the
> way around: it was dealing with a modest threat of voter fraud, but also
> without a serious impediment to voting.  What happened is that Democrat
> politician flipped out, calling it racist, claiming thousands would be
> disenfranchised, etc, without reason. In other words, they "protest too
> much." I figured we were on to something -- in person voter fraud -- that
> was more serious than I thought.
>
> In person voter fraud in such cases as I have mentioned is very hard to
> prove, but that does not mean that it does not happen.  From time to time,
> however, we see people like these Obama operatives who clearly are prepared
> to commit voter fraud and it is just reasonable to suggest that they would
> do it in person if they had a chance -- which voter ID laws, in large
> measure, prevent.  Jim Bopp
>
>  In a message dated 10/12/2012 10:08:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> lowenstein at law.ucla.edu writes:
>
>        I think the more sensible Democrats have claimed there is no or
> virtually no voter fraud that can be avoided by a photo ID requirement, not
> that there is no significant voter fraud at all.  I very much agree with
> Rick and others who have said the biggest concern about voter fraud arises
> from the widespread use of voting by mail, which gives rise not only to
> potential fraud problems but, I believe, even worse problems of
> intimidation and bribery.  Indeed, the reporter in the video is
> representing to vote, fraudulently, in Florida by mail, not be
> impersonation.
>
>              Best,
>
>              Daniel H. Lowenstein
>              Director, Center for the Liberal Arts and Free Institutions
> (CLAFI)
>              UCLA Law School
>              405 Hilgard
>              Los Angeles, California 90095-1476
>              310-825-5148
>
>
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> Subject: [EL] Check out New O'Keefe video: Obama campaign staffer caught
> helping activist v
>
> Click here: New O'Keefe video: Obama campaign staffer caught helping
> activist vote twice | The Daily Caller<
> http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/new-okeefe-video-obama-campaign-staffer-caught-helping-activist-vote-twice/#ixzz293I3dEts
> >
>
> Obama campaign caught red handed participating in voter fraud by helping
> voters vote in two different states in this election.  And some say there
> is no voter fraud!  Jim Bopp
>
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