[EL] why seek c4 recognition?

[Scarberry, Mark]

I thought there was a serious argument (though it seemed wrong to me) that contributions to such groups would be taxable income to them absent (c)(4) status. Is it not necessary for a group to get approval from IRS to avoid a claim that they have taxable income?

Mark Scarberry


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From: JBoppjr at aol.com
Date: 05/14/2013 12:21 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: bkingsley at harmoncurran.com,rhasen at law.uci.edu,law-election at uci.edu
Subject: Re: [EL] why seek c4 recognition?


Beth is absolutely right, IMHO.  Jim Bopp

In a message dated 5/14/2013 12:04:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bkingsley at harmoncurran.com writes:
For some groups the question is why seek recognition, not why not.

The form takes time and energy to complete. If you don't know the lingo you risk saying something that raises a red flag and triggers further scrutiny, so you'll spend time and energy responding to further IRS inquiries. To avoid that you can hire a lawyer and spend thousands on legal fees. Plus it costs $850 just to file the application, for all but the very smallest groups.

And what are the benefits? If the IRS ever happens to audit your group, you can rely on the determination to avoid retroactive revocation, provided there have been no material changes in operations. If you're pretty confident where you fit in the tax code, that benefit is pretty slim, and it can be easier just to start operating.

Many groups do file a 1024, and of course my experience tends to be with those who decide to do so, since they've probably come to me for help. There are some ancillary benefits -- being able to provide assurances to funders and other supporters that you're operating within the law, or in some cases eligibility for local tax exemption. But for many the plusses are not worth the hassles.

Beth

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:50 AM
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Subject: [EL] why seek c4 recognition?

Over on Twitter the NYT's Nick Confessore is tweeting about the question
why only some groups seek c4 recognition status. Apparently the
Democratic-oriented Priorities USA has not.

Can someone shed some light on the reasons why a group would not seek
such recognition from the IRS and what the risks are?

Thanks!

Rick

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