[EL] why seek c4 recognition?

[John Tanner]

More and more the campaign finance discussions call to mind Saint Just's
apothegm, "Long laws are public calamities."


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Jon Roland <jon.roland at constitution.org>wrote:

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> I know many of the organizers of these groups and most of what is going on
> is just a vague sense that anything one does has to be registered with the
> government to be "legal". Most don't get any advice from knowledgeable
> lawyers, but just wing it. We live in a culture of intimidation by the
> government and the IRS in particular that produces a lot of paranoid
> behavior, fed by the fact that the government and IRS really often are out
> to get us.
>
> The reports circulating for a while were to the effect that either
> donations would be treated as income (like tips are) or as gift taxable to
> the donors, with penalties for failing to report the gifts. There was some
> basis for that before the IRS backed down, and one wonders if they are
> connected to the recent "enhanced scrutiny" flap, which may in turn be
> related to the many briefings being given to federal agents to the effect
> that they should regard "patriots", "tea party" activists, "sovereigns",
> "tax protesters", "militia", and "constitutionalists", as potential
> terrorists. The sources for much of that seem to be mainly two private
> organizations, the ADL and the SPLC, which tend to act in concert, with
> agendas of their own that are notorious in dissident circles.
>
>
> On 05/14/2013 02:47 PM, Scarberry, Mark wrote:
>
> I thought there was a serious argument (though it seemed wrong to me) that
> contributions to such groups would be taxable income to them absent (c)(4)
> status. Is it not necessary for a group to get approval from IRS to avoid a
> claim that they have taxable income?
>
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