[EL] Just treat PACs and c4s like c3s(?)

[Thomas J. Cares]

...(...if a small and obscure denomination of Christianity wants to give
away bibles door to door, contributions to that effort are tax deductible
and they're unlikely to ever have any issues with the IRS; ...not so if I
ever took on the effort of spearheading voter initiatives to eternally
prohibit the consumption of any form of tobacco by anyone born after the
year 2000.

Why is it appropriate for the government to effectively assess that 'small
group's' bible-spreading as being more virtuous than my hypothetical
efforts towards eventually eradicating lung cancer?

(the government shouldn't have formulas and bureaucracies to
effectively judge the virtues of not-for-profit activity; treating all
not-for-profit activity alike clearly seems to be the simple solution here))

-Thomas Cares

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On Friday, May 17, 2013, Thomas J. Cares wrote:

> This has always seemed like an unequivocally-good reform to me.
>
> Just make all political spending (candidate contributions, PACs, lobbying,
> everything) tax deductible.
>
> It's practically an infinitesimal portion of our economy, and by making it
> taxable the government has to stick its nose where it doesn't belong. This
> IRS scandal is obviously a great case in point. You also have stuff like if
> a politician runs a genuine charity that also happens to get him great
> public exposure (let's say the charity opens a free day care center, and
> they run a tv ad where the politician/charity-head announces its opening,
> while the election is in 2 weeks - should the charity not be allowed to run
> it because it's contributions are tax deductible, but money supporting the
> candidate wouldn't be? Should we have to trust the IRS to have no political
> bias in deciding whether challenge the charity's c3 status?)
>
> And of course, civic activity should be encouraged and it's good public
> policy to not tax it.
>
> Seems like a very simple solution to me.
>
> -Thomas Cares
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2013, Rick Hasen wrote:
>
>>  To the contrary Steve.  I want to take the IRS out of the business of
>> being a campaign finance regulator, and have Congress set clear rules for
>> disclosure of contributions used to fund significant amounts of federal
>> election advertising (with an exemption for those who face realistic
>> threats of harassment).
>>
>> On 5/14/13 3:20 PM, Steve Klein wrote:
>>
>>  Rick, like Nancy Pelosi<http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/13/pelosi_irs_scandal_an_opportunity_to_scrutinize_501c4s_and_overturn_citizens_united.html>,
>> acknowledges that there's a problem with the IRS harassing groups based
>> on their ideology.
>>
>> The solution is to provide the IRS with the names of people who support
>> ideological groups.
>>
>>  Forgive a sarcastic response, but, "Wait, what?"
>>
>> Whether under fear of government incompetence or malfeasance, there are
>> strong, principled reasons to oppose disclosure. This episode only
>> reinforces my belief that disclosure serves, at best, an "obfuscational
>> interest" in political discourse, letting the Willie Starks of the world
>> find dirt on speakers (and "there's always something") rather than engage
>> on important issues.
>>
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>> “It’s About Disclosure, Stupid; The larger failing behind the terrible
>> IRS treatment of tea party groups.” <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=50351>
>>
>> Posted on May 14, 2013 2:41 pm <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=50351> by Rick
>> Hasen <http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3>
>> I’ve written this commentary<http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/05/the_irs_tea_party_scandal_the_lesson_is_better_campaign_finance_disclosure.html>for
>> *Slate*.
>>
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