[EL] ELB News and Commentary 9/26/13

Thu Sep 26 06:16:21 PDT 2013

You are missing my point. I don't know what the membership requirements are for this Association, and it really doesn't matter to me. I actually happened to think that the First Amendment gives Black people the right to hang out together and associate only with one another if that's what they want to do. Certainly that's what the Black Congressional Congress does, which, as I recall, denied membership to a white representative wanted to join. And again, I stress, I believe that is the right under the First Amendment, which protects the right of association. 

The Point of a sorority or fraternity is to accept people that you like and reject the rest. As a nerd growing up, and still today, I don't really like those exclusionary values,  because I am generally the one who gets excluded. Too short, too bad, not good looking enough, not athletic, blah blah blah. But do I think a fraternity has the right to choose not to associate with me because I'm too fat? Of course they do! The Capital First Amendment protects our right to associate with and we want, and also not to have to associate with those we would prefer not.

So if a group of Black professors want to form the "Black professors Association," they should have the right to do so. If a group of Black college girls wants to have an all black sorority, they should be able to do so. And similarly, if a group of white girls wants to have an all white sorority, they should be able to do so too.

I don't like it; I would never join an all white group; but if someone wants to have one, it should be there right.

And I will close by saying that if you really cannot see the irony in a group that is named for one particular race investigating another group charged with Bing for only one particular race, then you and I have a very different sense of what is ironical.

Joe

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:17 AM, "Legal Works of Marc Greidinger" <mpoweru4 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Indeed.
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> Marc Greidinger
> Caucasian and proud member of the NAACP
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> From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Rich,William D
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:58 AM
> To: Joe La Rue; Rick Hasen
> Cc: law-election at UCI.edu
> Subject: Re: [EL] ELB News and Commentary 9/26/13
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> I wonder what makes Joe La Rue believe that the University of Alabama Black Faculty and Staff Association is  a “race-based segregated” group.  There is nothing in its mission statement (http://bama.ua.edu/~bfsaua/mission.htm) to suggest that this is true.  Were I, a white person, a faculty member at the University of Alabama instead of at the University of Akron, I might well choose to join the Black Faculty and Staff Association as an expression of solidarity with the members of that organization and of support for its mission.  Nothing in my experience with similar organizations in my part of the country suggests to me that I would be unwelcome.  In fact, my experience is quite to the contrary.
>  
> I hasten to admit that I have no knowledge of the membership policies of the University of Alabama’s Black Faculty and Staff Association.  If Joe La Rue has such knowledge, I would welcome any information he might supply.
>  
> Bill Rich
>  
> Prof. William D. Rich
> The University of Akron School of Law
> Chairman, The University of Akron Faculty Senate.
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> From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Joe La Rue
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:24 AM
> To: Rick Hasen
> Cc: law-election at UCI.edu
> Subject: Re: [EL] ELB News and Commentary 9/26/13
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> Does anyone else find it ironic that charges of race-based segregation will be investigated by a committee including a representative appointed by the Black Faculty and Staff Association?  I guess the message is that SOME race-based segregated groups on campus are okay, just not white ones. 
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> On Sep 25, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Rick Hasen <hasenr at gmail.com> wrote:
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> “Lhota Backers Challenge Cap on Spending”
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> Posted on September 25, 2013 8:48 pm by Rick Hasen
> NYT:
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> A new Republican group supporting the mayoral candidacy of Joseph J. Lhota sued New York election officials in federal court Wednesday to allow individuals to contribute more than the current $150,000 annual maximum to independent political groups.
> 
> Unless the court believes that this comes too close to the election (a laches-type argument), a court could well grant an injunction against enforcing this limit in the mayoral election.
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> Posted in campaign finance
> “University of Alabama Faculty Senate to convene task force in light of sorority segregation, voter fraud controversies”
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> Posted on September 25, 2013 8:20 pm by Rick Hasen
> The latest.
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> Posted in campaigns, chicanery
> “Judicial Watch Announces New Team Member Robert D. Popper”
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> Posted on September 25, 2013 5:25 pm by Rick Hasen
> Press release: “Judicial Watch announced today its newest team member, attorney Robert D. Popper.  As Deputy Chief of the Voting Section of the Department of Justice (DOJ), he led complex litigations involving the Voting Rights Act, the National Voter Registration Act, and the Help America Vote Act, and he obtained favorable results in major lawsuits in Alabama, Arizona, Indiana, Maine, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, and California.  Mr. Popper will help lead Judicial Watch’s Election Integrity Project.”
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> Posted in election law biz
> Quote of the Day via Political Wire and Ralson Reports
> 
> Posted on September 25, 2013 12:18 pm by Rick Hasen
> Goddard, quoting Ralston quoting Hickey:
> 
> Quote of the Day
> 
> “A lot of minorities, a lot of younger people will not turn out in an non-presidential year. It’s a great year for Republicans!”
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> – Nevada Assembly Minority Leader Pat Hickey (R), in a radio interview, predicting big GOP wins next year.
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> Posted in The Voting Wars, voting
> “The End of Contribution Limits? | Rules of the Game”
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> Posted on September 25, 2013 10:04 am by Rick Hasen
> Eliza’s latest.
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> Posted in campaign finance
> “Public Citizen Urges IRS to Investigate Tax Status of Freedom Partners”
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> Posted on September 25, 2013 8:05 am by Rick Hasen
> Public Citizen press release.
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> Posted in campaign finance, tax law and election law
> “New CPA-Zicklin Index Reveals Surge in Number of Top Companies with Strong Political Disclosure Policies”
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> Posted on September 25, 2013 8:04 am by Rick Hasen
> See this press release.
> 
> Coverage from Bloomberg, WaPo.
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> Critique from CCP.
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> Quote of the Day: FEC Edition
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> Posted on September 24, 2013 9:31 pm by Rick Hasen
> “There is no nice way to say it: At some point McGahn will be an asshole…He’ll insist he knows the better course on an issue and insist you go along. … Make him explain himself, nonetheless.”
> 
> —Steve Hoersting, giving advice to FEC Commissioner Petersen (according to FOIA’ed documents)
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> Posted in campaign finance, federal election commission
> “Documents Show Partisan Fights at FEC Encouraged by Advocates Outside Agency”
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> Posted on September 24, 2013 9:28 pm by Rick Hasen
> Bloomberg BNA:
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> Partisan battles at the Federal Election Commission over the last five years have not been unique to the agency but instead have reflected wider ideological warfare between Republicans and Democrats in Washington, according to longtime FEC observers.
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> That conclusion appears to be supported by newly released internal documents reflecting contacts between commissioners and people outside the agency.
> The documents, released in response to Freedom of Information Act requests, show that FEC commissioners engaged in the recent partisan fights have been encouraged by Republican and Democratic lawyers and other outsiders, including at least one member of Congress and a top congressional staffer….
> The newly released documents revealed no apparent instances of improper attempts to influence commissioners, as the original requesters suspected might be the case. But, the messages did provide a glimpse of the internal workings of an agency viewed by critics as gridlocked along party lines and dysfunctional.
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