[EL] Attention fellow totalitarians...

Thu Apr 17 10:42:16 PDT 2014

I'm a big fan of all-things election law list serv and Rick's efforts here.

As for me, I've enjoyed off-list conversations on points I've contributed
or about litigation I've launched.  In the past, Roy Schotland and I found
many points of agreement and enjoyed our own off-list intellectual sparring
and engagement.  When contributors and readers are able to move past the
emotional temptation to put uniforms on those carrying different views,
amazing things happen.  At other times, the cold shoulder has shown itself.

Toward engagement,

Benjamin Barr

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Steve Klein <stephen.klein.esq at gmail.com>wrote:

> It's ironic to complain that in a free forum participants are choosing
> where to concentrate their efforts; that's the whole idea. The "government
> servers" thing is little more than red meat for those who don't understand
> or respect academia.
>
> I staunchly oppose campaign finance laws. I support this listserv. Cheers.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu> wrote:
>
>>    Interesting Perspective on Election Law Listserv from Non-Participant<http://electionlawblog.org/?p=60581>
>>  Posted on April 17, 2014 10:03 am <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=60581> by
>> Rick Hasen <http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3>
>>
>> I wonder if the many conservatives on the election law listserv would
>> agree with these points made by J. Christian Adams<http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2014/04/17/a-new-more-sinister-irs-scandal/?singlepage=true>
>> :
>>
>> *S*o who are the speech regulators seeking to impose government limits
>> on the exercise of the First Amendment?
>>
>> Like bats in the belfry, they tend to congregate online at University of
>> California at Irvine Law Professor Rick Hasen’s election blog<http://electionlawblog.org/>
>> .
>>
>> Hasen runs an online meeting hall<http://department-lists.uci.edu/pipermail/law-election/>for all the would-be speech totalitarians. They post, bluster, and kibitz
>> about the latest news on their effort to erode the First Amendment and
>> increase federal power. Whenever a free speech advocate seeks to contribute
>> to the conversation at the blog, they are often deliberately given a cold
>> shoulder and ignored, per plan. The ignored don’t understand that leftists
>> aren’t interested in debate. Their pedigree requires the eradication of
>> opposing ideas, not their incubation.
>>
>> But perhaps the ignored should be thankful. Being ignored is better than
>> what the speech regulators have done in other places throughout history.
>> Jail and truncheons are the usual tools of those who want to stamp out free
>> speech. In America, the speech regulators have just begun to warm up to
>> jail as a tool.
>>
>> That Hasen’s online hangout is hosted on *government servers* provides an
>> interesting twist.
>>
>> Judicial Watch sent the University of California at Irvine a freedom of
>> information request demanding Hasen’s emails to the White House and other
>> government officials including any on the topic of speech regulations. The
>> University told Judicial Watch to pound sand, and still hasn’t provided
>> anything.
>>
>> [image: a] <http://cdn.pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/files/2014/04/a1.jpg>
>>
>> Yesterday’s IRS email revelation makes you wonder what Cal-Irvine is
>> hiding.
>>
>> So who are some of the other speech regulators who haven’t shown up on
>> IRS scandal documents yet?
>>
>>  [image: Share]<http://www.addtoany.com/share_save#url=http%3A%2F%2Felectionlawblog.org%2F%3Fp%3D60581&title=Interesting%20Perspective%20on%20Election%20Law%20Listserv%20from%20Non-Participant&description=>
>>   Posted in Uncategorized <http://electionlawblog.org/?cat=1>
>>
>> --
>> Rick Hasen
>> Chancellor's Professor of Law and Political Science
>> UC Irvine School of Law
>> 401 E. Peltason Dr., Suite 1000
>> Irvine, CA 92697-8000949.824.3072 - office949.824.0495 - faxrhasen at law.uci.edu
>> hhttp://www.law.uci.edu/faculty/full-time/hasen/http://electionlawblog.org
>>
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