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Craig Holman
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Thu Jan 7 19:26:14 PST 2016
In response to Ruthalice's question, the answer is not so justifiably complicated as Ilya attempts to suggest. The answer is simple, and lacks justification -- as I suspect Ruthalice understood when she asked the rhetorical question.
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From: Ilya Shapiro <IShapiro at cato.org>
To: RuthAlice Anderson <ruthalice.anderson at comcast.net>
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This is actually a fairly technical question of statutory law. Where Obama was born (Hawaii) matters because his mom was so young when she had him. I published this oped in the Daily Caller (fertile territory for Trumpistas, I'm told) two years ago:
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/yes-ted-cruz-can-be-president">http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/yes-ted-cruz-can-be-president</a>
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On Jan 7, 2016, at 6:55 PM, RuthAlice Anderson <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:ruthalice.anderson at comcast.net">ruthalice.anderson at comcast.net</a>> wrote:
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<div>Regarding Muller’s article on Cruz’s eligibility, while I personally believe he is eligible and would be happy to have an amendment allowing naturalized citizens such as Arnold <span style="color: rgb(37, 37, 37); font-family: sans-serif;">Schwartzeneggar</span> also
be allowed to run (as was once a popular idea on the right before he lost his luster).
I am baffled that so much was made of Obama’s eligibility while so little is made of Cruz’s situation. After all, no one disputes Obama’s mother was an American citizen. Meanwhile, many asserted he was born in Kenya so therefore ineligible, but
why would Kenya be more disqualifying than Canada?
The argument defending his eligibility was that he was born in Hawaii, hence all the birth certificate nonsense.
The plurality of opinion at that time seemed to be if Obama were not born in Hawaii, if his birth certificate was fake, then he would be ineligible. That was presented as given in the media. So what has changed in eight years?
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this week</a>, Donald Trump suggested that Ted Cruz’s Canadian birthplace could be a problem in the event he became the Republican presidential nominee. He followed that up with a call for Mr. Cruz to seek a<span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding:
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There is little dispute on the facts. Mr. Cruz was born to a Cuban father and an American mother in Canada. Aaron Blake at the<span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span><em style="border:
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This is a dispute on the merits—Mr. Trump now suggesting that Mr. Cruz is not eligible, Mr. Cruz insisting that he is eligible, and a question as to who is right. Consensus suggests Mr. Cruz is eligible, and the consensus offers quite a strong argument, but
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gets to decide</em><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>whether Mr. Cruz is eligible? A court? Professor Dan Tokaji has many thoughts on the most pressing barrier to such challenges,<span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding:
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