[EL] Judge Real

JBoppjr at aol.com JBoppjr at aol.com
Mon May 2 05:58:45 PDT 2016


Yes, I understand your point.  And my point is that just because  "every 
other judge felt differently" does not make the rule desirable.  And  if I 
understand it, I don't think it is.  Jim
 
 
In a message dated 5/2/2016 8:45:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
esegall at gsu.edu writes:

My point was every other judge felt differently....every other  one. 

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On May 2, 2016, at 8:42 AM, "_JBoppjr at aol.com_ (mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com) " 
<_JBoppjr at aol.com_ (mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com) > wrote:




Interesting, thank you.  If I understand the rule he fought, I  required 
lawyers to be admitted to the Calif bar to practice in federal  court in 
Calif.  This is obviously a terrible rule in my  opinion so I understand his 
opposition but I am certainly not in a  position to evaluate his Art. III 
argument.  But I am glad he fought it  and it is not the rule now.  
 
PS This rule is another restraint of trade rule.  Full employment  for 
Calif lawyers!  Jim
 
 
In a message dated 5/2/2016 8:34:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_esegall at gsu.edu_ (mailto:esegall at gsu.edu)  writes:

The rule was to practice in the federal district courts of the  various 
districts that had the rule, the lawyer has to be a member of the  California 
bar (with exceptions). DOJ didn't say the rule was good or bad  just that it 
was constitutional. My point was in the affected districts,  every single 
judge was represented by one DOJ Attorney but Real demanded a  private 
attorney at gov't expense to support the plaintiff. He made a  crazy Art: III 
argument. He was wrong, he cost taxpayers money, and he  continually insulted 
both his colleagues and DOJ.


Best,


Eric 

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On May 2, 2016, at 8:25 AM, "_JBoppjr at aol.com_ (mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com) " 
<_JBoppjr at aol.com_ (mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com) > wrote:




Eric, I wonder what the rule was about.  Just because a bunch  of judges 
want it does not make it ipso facto desirable.
 
And I wonder also whether this judge would have suffered this  attack if he 
had ruled the other way.  Jim Bopp
 
 
In a message dated 5/1/2016 11:24:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
_esegall at gsu.edu_ (mailto:esegall at gsu.edu)  writes:

I'll make no comment about any campaign finance issue but Judge  Real is in 
fact a nut. When I was a lawyer at DOJ in 1990, he fought a  war over a 
local rule that was favored by over 75 other judges and  refused to be 
represented by the DOJ in a frivolous challenge to that  local rule causing all 
kinds of strife and showing great disrespect to  his colleagues who unanimously 
wanted to support and defend the rule  (which we did).


And that's not close to the worst things he  has done.


Best,


Eric

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On May 1, 2016, at 11:17 PM, Smith, Brad <_BSmith at law.capital.edu_ 
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One  growing trend we see is that any judge who decides a  campaign  
finance contrary to the wishes of the regulatory lobby will be  subjected to hit 
jobs from that same "ethics" lobby, focused not on  the merits of the 
decision, but framed as an attack on the personal  ethics and attributes of the 
judge.   


Disgraceful.


(P.S. To be clear, this is not targeted at Rick for including  these pieces 
in his daily roundups, but at the people launching the  hit jobs.)


Bradley A. Smith 
Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault 
Professor of Law 
Capital University Law School 
303 E. Broad St. 
Columbus, OH 43215 
614.236.6317 
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Subject:  [EL] ELB News and Commentary 5/2/16Posted  in _election 
administration_ 
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_“At age 92, Judge Manuel Real is still  abusing his power”_ 
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_Alison Frankel for Reuters_ 
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The  9th Circuit opinion shows that age has not mellowed Judge Real,  who 
was born in 1924 and appointed to the bench in 1966 by  President Lyndon 
Johnson. For much of his long career, the judge  has been _dogged by 
controversy_ 
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2fd708d372384d5d|515ad73d8d5e4169895c9789dc742a70|0&sdata=w+c/JJSHIGeRSK7YGU
HeP743X/c6L1Nka+m1019FfpU=)  and overruled by the 9th  Circuit. As the Los 
Angeles Times _reported in 2009_ 
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=01|01|esegall at gsu.edu|01dc83ab62e34b5c2fd708d372384d5d|515ad73d8d5e4169895c
9789dc742a70|0&sdata=Ku8FPjy694W3DLdyA6RgLEAvKFvyYvAoLAvuhEIPtj4=) , Judge 
Real’s reversal rate has  been as high as 10 times the average for federal 
judges. The Times  found the appeals court _removed Real_ 
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l/me-real14&data=01|01|esegall at gsu.edu|01dc83ab62e34b5c2fd708d372384d5d|515a
d73d8d5e4169895c9789dc742a70|0&sdata=Uebubj6TRRCv8ddP7MD/xz4smrqUfpktNI1TtkD
8oYM=)  from presiding over  remanded cases at least 11 times. 
Real  was called to testify at a 2006 House Judiciary Committee _hearing_ 
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committees/judiciary/hju29969.000/hju29969_0f.htm&data=01|01|esegall at gsu.edu
|01dc83ab62e34b5c2fd708d372384d5d|515ad73d8d5e4169895c9789dc742a70|0&sdata=X
hdySqAgmTMJADmmRA1hvKwZZFLEavaH4Cf2ASH90Cw=)  exploring his alleged  
misconduct in the handling of a bankruptcy case and related  California unlawful 
detainer action. The House dropped the matter  but he was later publicly 
reprimanded by the 9th Circuit. 
Since  2006, according to _Westlaw statistics_ 
(https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://blogs.reuters.com/alison-frankel/files/2016/04
/Judicial-Reversal-Report-for-Real-Hon-Manuel-L.pdf&data=01|01|esegall at gsu.e
du|01dc83ab62e34b5c2fd708d372384d5d|515ad73d8d5e4169895c9789dc742a70|0&sdata
=5zwdegqk4C0VElpQdK9f5oSt8P4g2YjFf8o1fM2fTGk=)  on Judge Real’s record at  
the 9th Circuit, he has been reversed 87 times. The judge has been  affirmed 
233 times. His reversal rate in the last 10 years – not  counting his 47 
partial reversals – is nearly 17 percent. (I  calculated the rate by dividing 
the number of complete reversals  by the sum of complete reversals plus 
complete affirmances.) In  2015, according to the Westlaw report, the judge was 
reversed 12  times and affirmed 20, an astonishing 37.5 percent reversal 
rate.  Before Wednesday’s decision in the Wijegunaratne case, Judge Real  had 
been reversed in two other cases in 2016, compared to seven  affirmances.
This  is the judge that _recently decided _ 
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su.edu|01dc83ab62e34b5c2fd708d372384d5d|515ad73d8d5e4169895c9789dc742a70|0&s
data=ZrL1Xj7KIyjKXgrBBKdxV8UKxbN2s7zplU7Z4kHDj0k=) against the state of  
California and in favor of the Koch Brothers-linked Americans for  Propserity 
on disclosure issues, soon to face a 9th Circuit  appeal. 
 
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