[EL] Judge Real
Eric J Segall
esegall at gsu.edu
Mon May 2 06:03:38 PDT 2016
And I never said rule was desirable. I said as a matter of collegiality and professionalism he should have gone along with or at least not obstructed the rule passed and favored by every one of his colleagues.
This was not an academic debate. This was taxpayer money and real life.
Of course he lost on all issues after much work and expense for many others.
Best,
Eric
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On May 2, 2016, at 8:58 AM, "JBoppjr at aol.com<mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com>" <JBoppjr at aol.com<mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com>> wrote:
Yes, I understand your point. And my point is that just because "every other judge felt differently" does not make the rule desirable. And if I understand it, I don't think it is. Jim
In a message dated 5/2/2016 8:45:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esegall at gsu.edu<mailto:esegall at gsu.edu> writes:
My point was every other judge felt differently....every other one.
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On May 2, 2016, at 8:42 AM, "JBoppjr at aol.com<mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com>" <JBoppjr at aol.com<mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com>> wrote:
Interesting, thank you. If I understand the rule he fought, I required lawyers to be admitted to the Calif bar to practice in federal court in Calif. This is obviously a terrible rule in my opinion so I understand his opposition but I am certainly not in a position to evaluate his Art. III argument. But I am glad he fought it and it is not the rule now.
PS This rule is another restraint of trade rule. Full employment for Calif lawyers! Jim
In a message dated 5/2/2016 8:34:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esegall at gsu.edu<mailto:esegall at gsu.edu> writes:
The rule was to practice in the federal district courts of the various districts that had the rule, the lawyer has to be a member of the California bar (with exceptions). DOJ didn't say the rule was good or bad just that it was constitutional. My point was in the affected districts, every single judge was represented by one DOJ Attorney but Real demanded a private attorney at gov't expense to support the plaintiff. He made a crazy Art: III argument. He was wrong, he cost taxpayers money, and he continually insulted both his colleagues and DOJ.
Best,
Eric
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On May 2, 2016, at 8:25 AM, "JBoppjr at aol.com<mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com>" <JBoppjr at aol.com<mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com>> wrote:
Eric, I wonder what the rule was about. Just because a bunch of judges want it does not make it ipso facto desirable.
And I wonder also whether this judge would have suffered this attack if he had ruled the other way. Jim Bopp
In a message dated 5/1/2016 11:24:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esegall at gsu.edu<mailto:esegall at gsu.edu> writes:
I'll make no comment about any campaign finance issue but Judge Real is in fact a nut. When I was a lawyer at DOJ in 1990, he fought a war over a local rule that was favored by over 75 other judges and refused to be represented by the DOJ in a frivolous challenge to that local rule causing all kinds of strife and showing great disrespect to his colleagues who unanimously wanted to support and defend the rule (which we did).
And that's not close to the worst things he has done.
Best,
Eric
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On May 1, 2016, at 11:17 PM, Smith, Brad <BSmith at law.capital.edu<mailto:BSmith at law.capital.edu>> wrote:
One growing trend we see is that any judge who decides a campaign finance contrary to the wishes of the regulatory lobby will be subjected to hit jobs from that same "ethics" lobby, focused not on the merits of the decision, but framed as an attack on the personal ethics and attributes of the judge.
Disgraceful.
(P.S. To be clear, this is not targeted at Rick for including these pieces in his daily roundups, but at the people launching the hit jobs.)
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The 9th Circuit opinion shows that age has not mellowed Judge Real, who was born in 1924 and appointed to the bench in 1966 by President Lyndon Johnson. For much of his long career, the judge has been dogged by controversy<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.abajournal.com%2fmagazine%2farticle%2freal_trouble&data=01%7c01%7cesegall%40gsu.edu%7c01dc83ab62e34b5c2fd708d372384d5d%7c515ad73d8d5e4169895c9789dc742a70%7c0&sdata=w%2bc%2fJJSHIGeRSK7YGUHeP743X%2fc6L1Nka%2bm1019FfpU%3d> and overruled by the 9th Circuit. As the Los Angeles Times reported in 2009<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2farticles.latimes.com%2f2009%2faug%2f16%2flocal%2fme-judge-real16%2f2&data=01%7c01%7cesegall%40gsu.edu%7c01dc83ab62e34b5c2fd708d372384d5d%7c515ad73d8d5e4169895c9789dc742a70%7c0&sdata=Ku8FPjy694W3DLdyA6RgLEAvKFvyYvAoLAvuhEIPtj4%3d>, Judge Real's reversal rate has been as high as 10 times the average for federal judges. The Times found the appeals court removed Real<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2farticles.latimes.com%2f2009%2fnov%2f14%2flocal%2fme-real14&data=01%7c01%7cesegall%40gsu.edu%7c01dc83ab62e34b5c2fd708d372384d5d%7c515ad73d8d5e4169895c9789dc742a70%7c0&sdata=Uebubj6TRRCv8ddP7MD%2fxz4smrqUfpktNI1TtkD8oYM%3d> from presiding over remanded cases at least 11 times.
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