[EL] Curious if a single person on this list would back up President-Elect Trump on 2 assertions today
Schultz, David A.
dschultz at hamline.edu
Mon Nov 28 08:31:04 PST 2016
If such fraud exists Trump should ask for recounts nationally and one would
assume canvassing boards would detect. Also as I previously pointed out 28
secretaries of state are republicans and 8 of 11 swing states have GOP as
secretaries of state. I assume they have incentives to find this fraud if
it exists on such a massive scale.
On Nov 28, 2016 10:20 AM, "Rob Richie" <rr at fairvote.org> wrote:
Just affirming that no takers on this challenge of defending the two
assertions made yesterday by Donald Trump?
Thanks,
Rob
On Sunday, November 27, 2016, Rob Richie <rr at fairvote.org> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> President-elect Donald Trump has a quick thumb on Twitter, it seems. See report
> in New York Times,
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/27/us/politics/trump-adviser-steps-up-searing-attack-on-romney.html>
> and see three tweets in a row at the bottom of this email, which put
> together result in this text:
>
> "In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the
> popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally. It
> would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote than
> the Electoral College in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4 states
> instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even more easily
> and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!"
>
> So this list has participants with a full range of political opinions. But
> I'm curious to know if a single person on this list would attempt to back
> two claims in this statement:
>
> 1. Trump in fact won the popular vote this year "if you deduct the
> millions of people who voted illegally."
> 2. With a national popular vote, he would have campaigned in only 3 or 4
> states instead of the whopping 15 states that he visited out of the
> nation's 51 (counting DC).
>
> When making your argument, keep in mind the latest data in from Dave
> Wasserman as he tracks the national popular vote here:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdV
> ns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/edit#gid=19
>
> With votes still being counted and finalized, Clinton's lead is up to more
> than 2.2 million (48.2% to 46.5%). It is expected to rise to more than
> 2.5% and about two percentage points. So let us know where that many
> illegal votes were cast this year -- seems important to have that
> information!
>
> Also, keep in mind the math of our nation's states when defending Trump's
> prospective campaign tactics with a popular vote. Mike McDonald's
> spreadsheet on turnout is here
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VAcF0eJ06y_8T4o2gvIL
> 4YcyQy8pxb1zYkgXF76Uu1s/edit#gid=2030096602
>
> Assuming comparable turnout of eligible voters across state, a candidate
> could win 100% of the vote in the 4 largest states (California, Texas,
> Florida and New York) and have only 31% of all votes in the nation. In,
> fact, you could win every cast in the 9 largest states and still be well
> under 50% of votes in the entire country - -and those states include a mix
> of strongly Democratic and Republican states, showing how still it is to
> suggest getting much more than half of the vote in those states in a
> nationally close election.
>
> So suggesting that campaigning in 15 states was due to our current
> Electoral College rules seems, well, a stretch. You can see how often he
> campaigned in those states, by the sway, at our tracker
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14Lxw0vc4YBUwQ8cZouy
> ewZvOGg6PyzS2mArWNe3iJcY/edit#gid=0
>
> Post-convention, Trump did well over half of his campaign evens in the
> four largest swing states - 26 campaign events in Florida, 16 in North
> Carolina, 13 in Ohio and 14 on Pennsylvania. Of our 13 states (counting
> DC) with 3 or 4 electoral votes, he campaigned in only two -- 8 events in
> New Hampshire, and 3 in Maine
>
> Thanks,
> Rob Richie
>
>
>
> 1. *Donald J. Trump* @realDonaldTrump
> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump> 3h3 hours ago
> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/802975667197386752>
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> states instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even
> more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!
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> *Donald J. Trump* @realDonaldTrump
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> It would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular
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> *Donald J. Trump* @realDonaldTrump
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> In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the
> popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally
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