[EL] If elections can be rigged...

Thu Oct 20 10:28:14 PDT 2016

All members of this list,

If you want those of us on the other side to take you seriously you might want to use the actual name of our party.  It is the Democratic Party not the Democrat Party.

Otherwise you will get all the attention that Project Veritas deserves.

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On Oct 20, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Joseph E. La Rue <joseph.e.larue at gmail.com<mailto:joseph.e.larue at gmail.com>> wrote:

No, Zach, it didn't.  And, while it doesn't necessarily mean that the DNC has a plan to rig the election, it did show a Democrat official talking about Democrats rigging elections through vote fraud.  Rather than pretend it didn't happen, wouldn't it be better for the Liberals and Progressives on this Listserve to condemn the comments?  And, while they are at it, shouldn't they seek to ensure that their fellow Democrats aren't actually doing this, rather than ignoring it because it doesn't fit their preferred theory (i.e., there is no significant vote fraud)?  By the way, I'm not saying that Democrats actually have committed vote fraud for 50 years.  I'm simply saying that it seems a better response is to condemn the comments, rather than (1) pretend they weren't made or (2) pretend Veritas doctored the tape and the Democrat official never said what he clearly said.

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On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Zach West <zachwest1 at gmail.com<mailto:zachwest1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Did this Project Veritas reporting involve a boat<http://www.salon.com/2010/10/04/james_okeefe_sex_boat_post/>?

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Benjamin Barr <benjamin.barr at gmail.com<mailto:benjamin.barr at gmail.com>> wrote:
Seems credible. As a result of Veritas reporting, Scott Foval (Americans United for Change) and Bob Creamer (Democracy Partners) have been pushed out/resigned/fired yesterday and today. Seems significant.

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On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Fredric Woocher <fwoocher at strumwooch.com<mailto:fwoocher at strumwooch.com>> wrote:

Such a credible source.

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From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu<mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Benjamin Barr
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Subject: Re: [EL] If elections can be rigged...

Why do you suppose democratic operatives have bragged<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs> about having bussed people for 50 years to engage in voter fraud?

Forward,

Benjamin Barr

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Schultz, David A. <dschultz at hamline.edu<mailto:dschultz at hamline.edu>> wrote:
If elections can be rigged, either party can do it.  The secretary of state (or commonwealth) is the chief election officer in each state and they would have the ability to manipulate the election system to the benefit of their favored candidate.  Of the 50 states, 27 are Republican.  Among the 11 swing states that are Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina,  Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin, only four, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin, are controlled by Democrats.  Republicans control nearly two-thirds of the secretaries of state in the critical swing states and presumably would not have an incentive to rig the election in favor of Clinton.

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