[EL] If elections can be rigged...

Thu Oct 20 10:39:41 PDT 2016

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Veritas has been accused of
"selective editing," which means that it has left out things that were
said, spliced tape together, etc.  I don't think, however, that it has ever
been shown to have spliced tape together so someone was shown saying
sentences he/she didn't actually say.  Thus, when those on the Left dismiss
this as "we can't know that the official actually said what we see him
saying," it rings hollow with many of us on the Right.  The point is, the
comments were made.  Perhaps the men said more than was shown.  But they *at
least* said what was shown.  And those remarks should be roundly condemned,
not excused because one doesn't like the filmer.

Joseph
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On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 10:35 AM, John Farrell <
jfarrell at mccandlishlawyers.com> wrote:

> But Democrats have condemned the apparent comments and both men have been
> terminated.  And I don’t trust the video to accurately portray what was
> actually said because that source has doctored tapes before.
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> On Oct 20, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Joseph E. La Rue <joseph.e.larue at gmail.com>
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> No, Zach, it didn't.  And, while it doesn't necessarily mean that the DNC
> has a plan to rig the election, it did show a Democrat official talking
> about Democrats rigging elections through vote fraud.  Rather than pretend
> it didn't happen, wouldn't it be better for the Liberals and Progressives
> on this Listserve to condemn the comments?  And, while they are at it,
> shouldn't they seek to ensure that their fellow Democrats aren't actually
> doing this, rather than ignoring it because it doesn't fit their preferred
> theory (i.e., there is no significant vote fraud)?  By the way, I'm not
> saying that Democrats actually have committed vote fraud for 50 years.  I'm
> simply saying that it seems a better response is to condemn the comments,
> rather than (1) pretend they weren't made or (2) pretend Veritas doctored
> the tape and the Democrat official never said what he clearly said.
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> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Zach West <zachwest1 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Did this Project Veritas reporting involve a boat
>> <http://www.salon.com/2010/10/04/james_okeefe_sex_boat_post/>?
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Benjamin Barr <benjamin.barr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Seems credible. As a result of Veritas reporting, Scott Foval (Americans
>>> United for Change) and Bob Creamer (Democracy Partners) have been pushed
>>> out/resigned/fired yesterday and today. Seems significant.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Fredric Woocher <fwoocher at strumwooch.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Such a credible source.
>>>
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>>> *Subject:* Re: [EL] If elections can be rigged...
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>>> Why do you suppose democratic operatives have bragged
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs> about having bussed
>>> people for 50 years to engage in voter fraud?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forward,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Benjamin Barr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Schultz, David A. <dschultz at hamline.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If elections can be rigged, either party can do it.  The secretary of
>>> state (or commonwealth) is the chief election officer in each state and
>>> they would have the ability to manipulate the election system to the
>>> benefit of their favored candidate.  Of the 50 states, 27 are Republican.
>>> Among the 11 swing states that are Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Nevada,
>>> New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina,  Pennsylvania, Virginia, and
>>> Wisconsin, only four, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and
>>> Wisconsin, are controlled by Democrats.  Republicans control nearly
>>> two-thirds of the secretaries of state in the critical swing states and
>>> presumably would not have an incentive to rig the election in favor of
>>> Clinton.
>>>
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