[EL] Listserv messages.

Mon Oct 24 11:45:51 PDT 2016

I have the same filtering problem as Rob on my end, with the same people
going to spam.

Douglas Carver
Albuquerque, NM

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Rob Richie <rr at fairvote.org> wrote:

> All of Jim's emails come through to me, but I had to set up a special
> filter in my gmail program to stop messages from AOL and yahoo addresses
> going straight to spam.
>
> To show it wasn't Google getting all ideological on us, it also affected
> emails from Craig Holman (AOL) and Richard Winger (yahoo).
>
> Rob
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hearing from one other person not receiving Jim's posts. They are coming
>> out of listserv as shown in the archives:
>>
>> http://department-lists.uci.edu/pipermail/law-election/2016-
>> October/date.html
>>
>> So the problem is on the receiving end. Check with your isp or mail
>> provider.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Rick Hasen
>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse typos.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 6:34 AM -0700, "Rick Hasen" <rhasen at law.uci.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If I'm counting right people on the list will now have seen this five
>> times. There must be an issue on your end.
>>
>> Rick Hasen
>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse typos.
>>
>> _____________________________
>> From: jboppjr at aol.com
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 6:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: Rick's disagreement with my statement about Trump
>> To: Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu>, <law-election at uci.edu>
>> Cc: <lowenstein at law.ucla.edu>
>>
>>
>> This post was not emailed out.  I am asking that that be done.  Jim
>>
>> In a message dated 10/22/2016 8:59:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> rhasen at law.uci.edu writes:
>>
>> We have had some problems in the past with aol users receiving messages.
>> One can always check archives to see if a message was sent out.
>>
>> Rick Hasen
>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse typos.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 5:17 AM -0700, "JBoppjr at aol.com" <JBoppjr at aol.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Several of my colleagues have told me that they don't see my post
>> distributed by email, unless someone responds.  Same with me. I am
>> resending this since it was not emailed out yesterday when I origionally
>> sent it.  Jim Bopp
>>
>> In a message dated 10/21/2016 11:59:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> JBoppjr at aol.com writes:
>>
>> This is Rick's third personal attack on me in the last 3 days:
>>
>> The first and second are here:
>>
>> *Rick, this is the second time in so many days that you have personally
>> attacked me.*
>>
>> *Yesterday you said:*
>>
>> *3.       If you don’t like the selection of articles, you can continue
>> to send your own.  Or you can unsubscribe to this list. Or you can do with
>> my posts what some list members tell me they do with yours: delete without
>> reading.*
>>
>> *I am sure every one on this list serve has deleted posts without reading
>> them, including myself, but I have never felt a need to personally attack
>> them by publicly broadcasting that.*
>>
>> *And today:*
>>
>> *I always thought of you as a straight shooter before this election and
>> this voter fraud garbage. We’ve disagreed but I’ve seen you as making
>> fundamentally honest arguments. *
>>
>> *It is an unfortunate trait of some to assume that because they disagree
>> with someone, the other one is being "dishonest."  I am sorry to see that
>> you are in that number.*
>>
>> And now below Rick says:
>>
>> Of course, a comparable ad hominem attack that someone could, but
>> shouldn't, make on Rick would be "For (Rick Hasen) to (attack) this
>> statement which (ensures accountability in our electoral system by not
>> waiving the possibilities of a recount in a close election) is
>> disappointing but not surprising. (Rick) is a hard-core (leftist) who cares
>> about the balance of power on the Supreme Court more that anything else. A
>> (Trump) presidency could bring his years long project to (gut the First
>> Amendment) to a halt."
>>
>> This statement shouldn't be made about Rick, not because it is not true,
>> but because we should try to rise above these personal attacks if
>> possible. And three in three days by Rick on me is really a bit too
>> much. Jim Bopp
>>
>> In a message dated 10/21/2016 11:00:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> rhasen at law.uci.edu writes:
>>
>> *Jim Bopp and I Differ in Understanding Trump’s Comments About Not
>> Conceding <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=87878>*
>>
>> Posted on October 21, 2016 7:47 am <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=87878>
>>  by *Rick Hasen* <http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3>
>>
>> What else is new?
>> <https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/788946270471749637/photo/1>
>>
>> [image:
>> https://www.addtoany.com/share#url=http://electionlawblog.org/?p=87878&title=Jim
>> Bopp and I Differ in Understanding Trumpâ€™s Comments About Not Conceding]
>> <https://www.addtoany.com/share#url=http%3A%2F%2Felectionlawblog.org%2F%3Fp%3D87878&title=Jim%20Bopp%20and%20I%20Differ%20in%20Understanding%20Trump%E2%80%99s%20Comments%20About%20Not%20Conceding>
>>
>> Posted in election administration <http://electionlawblog.org/?cat=18>, The
>> Voting Wars <http://electionlawblog.org/?cat=60>
>>
>>
>>
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