[EL] After impeachment and removal

[Margaret Groarke]

What a weird sidebar. You're suggesting that we suggest changing the
impeachment process right now, as an impeachment process is underway? The
Senate, in every vote it takes, under- and over- represents people based on
the state they live in -- Senate votes on impeachment are no different in
that regard.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:53 AM Steve Hoersting <hoersting at gmail.com>
wrote:

> *The Senate also decides future Presidential debarment... and by a
> majority vote*
>
> It would seem that the Senate, then, operates, on the question of
> re-election, as a kind of Electoral College.
>
> So I cannot wait for all of today’s principled Electoral College opponents
> to rail against — rather than cling to — this debarment procedure.
>
> Steve
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Doug Spencer <dougspencer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> Adding to Rick's point, the vote whether to disqualify from holding future
> office requires a separate Senate vote (akin to sentencing) after the
> Senate votes to convict. Interestingly (problematically?) the vote for
> disqualification requires a bare majority vote. See more about the history
> of these votes here: https://nyti.ms/2p4dWQh
>
> Best,
> Doug
>
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>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:03 AM Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Larry, the Senate has the power to decide, as part of a conviction,
>> whether also to bar the person from future national office.  That does not
>> follow automatically from conviction but can and has been added to Senate
>> impeachment convictions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard H. Pildes
>>
>> Sudler Family Professor of Constitutional Law
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> *From:* Law-election [mailto:
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>> larrylevine at earthlink.net
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 10:59 AM
>> *To:* 'Election Law Listserv' <law-election at uci.edu>
>> *Subject:* [EL] After impeachment and removal
>>
>>
>>
>> If a President is impeached and then convicted by the Senate and removed
>> from office, could he run again for President at the next election? I know
>> this once would have seem a preposterous notion, but we are living in
>> preposterous times.
>>
>> Larry
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