[EL] Mailing from your own mailbox

Sat Aug 15 20:33:29 PDT 2020

If others want to move forward with this, count me in for a few dozen
stamps and envelopes.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 9:54 PM Ciara C Torres-Spelliscy <
ctorress at law.stetson.edu> wrote:

> If anyone on this list wants to conduct an experiment with mailing letters
> to each other to test the delays, I’m game. The only thing the letter has
> to say is “I sent this on x date from x location.”
> I’m in Florida.
> Ciao,
> Ciara
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 15, 2020, at 9:47 PM, J.H. Snider <snider at isolon.org> wrote:
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> CAUTION - External Email -
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> If anyone wants good data on mail delivery problems rather than anecdotes,
> a good source might be Amazon, Walmart, or another major e-commerce player.
> The data would be imperfect for a variety or reasons, such as the
> difference between shipping one-off bulky products vs. mass paper ballots
> and the differential theft problem for porch vs. mailbox delivered
> products.  But if the data could be restricted to small products delivered
> directly to a local post office and then to a regular residential mailbox,
> the data might be usable.
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>
> I have no idea whether anyone could get a major e-commerce player to share
> this information.  But it seems to me that such a player would have
> unusually good information because Amazon recipients, say, generally know
> within a few days when they are supposed to receive a product they
> purchased and have a high likelihood of complaining when they don’t receive
> the product. Perhaps an e-commerce trade association already collects
> relevant USPS delivery data and shares it with USPS.  As for me, I rarely
> receive misdelivered products but often get misdelivered bills and other
> mass mailings—usually for recipients on the same route as my mail carrier.
>
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>
> As for explaining Susan’s black box mail delivery delay, one possibility
> is that someone like me might have received her mail, kept it lying around,
> and then handed it of to my local delivery postman when it was convenient
> for me.
>
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> J.H. Snider, Editor
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> The Iowa State Constitutional Convention Clearinghouse
> <http://iowaconcon2020.info/> and
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> The State Constitutional Convention Clearinghouse <https://concon.info/>
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> *From:* Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> *On
> Behalf Of *Rob Richie
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 15, 2020 6:28 PM
> *To:* Susan Lerner <slerner at commoncause.org>
> *Cc:* Election Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] Mailing from your own mailbox
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>
> For what it's worth, the mail today arrived about 5:30 pm on a Saturday.
> The harried carrier, new to me and clearly doing a process that was new to
> him, said no mail was attempted to be delivered to our neighborhood
> yesterday -- first time I think that's happened here in our suburban
> Maryland home outside of heavy snow days.
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>
> My wife and I still haven't gotten our stimulus payments four months after
> many people did.
>
>
>
> Not a great testament to government investing in execution of basic
> functions, although I recognize the challenges of a global pandemic.
>
> Rob
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> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 4:21 PM Susan Lerner <slerner at commoncause.org>
> wrote:
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> Thanks, Richard.Ididnotdepositthe letter in a collection box, but rather
> in my residence mailbox.
>
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device
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> *From:* richardwinger at yahoo.com
>
> *Sent:* August 15, 2020 3:59 PM
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> *To:* law-election at uci.edu; slerner at commoncause.org
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> *Reply-to:* richardwinger at yahoo.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] Mailing from your own mailbox
>
>
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> Thank you for this message.
>
>
>
> My vocabulary point here is extremely miniscule, but the best term for the
> boxes in which people leave postal mail is "collection box."
>
>
>
> Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
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> On Saturday, August 15, 2020, 12:22:21 PM PDT, Susan Lerner <
> slerner at commoncause.org> wrote:
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> In July, I wrote an actual, physical letter to my granddaughter, who lives
> about 3 miles away, further south in Brooklyn.  I placed it, fully
> addressed and stamped, in my mailbox for pick up. 3 weeks later, she
> received it.  So, I guess it was good that it got picked up, but handling
> left a lot to be desired.
>
>
>
> Susan Lerner
>
> Common Cause/NY
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> Sent from a mobile devise-excuse typos and odd spellings
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