[EL] Newsom recall lawsuit
D. A. Holtzman
d at LAvoteFIRE.org
Tue Aug 17 23:13:08 PDT 2021
I was asking about the counting, not the effect, of write-ins for
Newsom. -dh
On 8/17/2021 2:02 PM, Tom at TomCares.com wrote:
> If it's constitutional to deny ballot access to a governor on the
> basis that they have already served two terms (a prohibition itself
> adopted by voters), then why wouldn't it be constitutional to deny it
> on the basis of a majority of voters having just decided that they
> shall no longer be governor?
>
> -Tom Cares
>
> On Tue, 17 Aug 2021, 21:47 D. A. Holtzman, <d at lavotefire.org
> <mailto:d at lavotefire.org>> wrote:
>
> Richard writes, "if a court wanted to, it could order the write-in
> tally for Newsom counted." But would a court be *allowed* to?
> - david h.
>
> On 8/17/2021 11:04 AM, Richard Winger wrote:
>> California permits write-in votes in the bottom half of recall
>> elections. Although California requires write-in candidates to
>> file a declaration of candidacy if they want their write-ins
>> counted, nevertheless in theory Gavin Newsom and his supporters
>> were always free to urge voters to write-in Gavin Newsom in the
>> write-in space. Vote-counting equipment does electronically know
>> which ballots have a write-in choice written in, and if a court
>> wanted to, it could order the write-in tally for Newsom counted.
>>
>> Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 11:00:06 AM PDT, Christopher S.
>> Elmendorf <cselmendorf at ucdavis.edu>
>> <mailto:cselmendorf at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Apropos Ned’s post below, some of you may be interested in the
>> exchange Michael Morley and I had about this via Twitter. (See
>> here <https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1425689773058904071>
>> and here
>> <https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1425865285819457542>.) We
>> both think the problem with the CA’s recall election procedure
>> would be better analyzed through the lens of the ballot-access
>> precedents, not 1p1v. I think there’s a constitutional problem;
>> Michael is more skeptical.
>>
>> Chris
>>
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>> Christopher S. Elmendorf
>>
>> Martin Luther King, Jr. Professor of Law
>>
>> UC Davis School of Law
>>
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>> *Date: *Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:36 AM
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>> To build off Ned's post, and setting aside the major laches
>> problem to this lawsuit, Vik Amar and Evan Caminker at Justia
>> have a pretty thorough defense of California's process, a process
>> that disqualifies a recalled governor from seeking… Continue ...
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>> 1. Qualifications for candidates running in California’s
>> gubernatorial recall
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124133>
>> 2. Newsom recall lawsuit
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124129>
>> 3. Bernie Grofman: “How Best to do Prison Population Data
>> Reallocation, i.e., How Best to Mitigate Prison
>> Gerrymandering?”
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124127>
>> 4. 2021 Election Law Teacher Database Now Available
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124125>
>> 5. What new census data tell us about Pa.’s politics: More
>> influence for Philly and Latinos, and a shrinking white vote
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124120>
>> 6. “Protect Democracy Joins Defamation Suit Against Project
>> Veritas: Right-Wing Group Maliciously Lied About a PA
>> Postmaster In the Aftermath of 2020 Election”
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124121>
>>
>>
>> Qualifications for candidates running in California’s
>> gubernatorial
>> recall<https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112500&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>>
>> /By Derek Muller, August 17, 2021/
>>
>> To build off
>> Ned<https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124129>‘s
>> post, and setting aside the major
>> laches<https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~reason.com/volokh/2020/11/27/laches-and-the-pennsylvania-election-litigation/>problem
>> to this lawsuit, Vik Amar and Evan Caminker at
>> Justia<https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~verdict.justia.com/2021/08/16/deja-vu-all-over-again-californias-upcoming-recall-vote-for-governor-is-resurfacing-some-old-and-flawed-constitutional-critiques>have
>> a pretty thorough defense of California’s process, a process that
>> disqualifies a recalled governor from seeking… Continue reading
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124133>
>>
>>
>> Newsom recall
>> lawsuit<https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112502&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>>
>> /By Ned Foley, August 17, 2021/
>>
>> Politico<https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~www.politico.com/states/california/story/2021/08/16/federal-lawsuit-challenges-california-recall-as-unconstitutional-1390127>has
>> a story on a new federal lawsuit raising a constitutional
>> challenge to the procedures that California uses for its
>> gubernatorial recall. The lawsuit follows upon a NY Times
>> op-ed<https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~www.nytimes.com/2021/08/11/opinion/california-recall-election-newsom.html>from
>> last week by Erwin Chemerinsky and Aaron Edlin,… Continue reading
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124129>
>>
>>
>> Bernie Grofman: “How Best to do Prison Population Data
>> Reallocation, i.e., How Best to Mitigate Prison
>> Gerrymandering?”<https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112504&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>>
>> /By Rick Hasen, August 16, 2021/
>>
>> The following is a guest post from my UCI colleague Bernie
>> Grofman<https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/www.socsci.uci.edu/~bgrofman/>:
>> There are now eleven states that committed to using data on past
>> home addresses of prisoners and locating them for redistricting
>> purposes not in the prison but… Continue reading
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124127>
>>
>>
>> 2021 Election Law Teacher Database Now
>> Available<https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112506&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>>
>> /By Rick Hasen, August 16, 2021/
>>
>> You can download it at this
>> link<https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/Election-Law-Database-2021.xlsx>.
>>
>>
>>
>> What new census data tell us about Pa.’s politics: More influence
>> for Philly and Latinos, and a shrinking white
>> vote<https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112510&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>>
>> /By Tabatha Abu El-Haj, August 16, 2021/
>>
>> From Jonathan Tamari and Jonathan Lai at the Philadelphia
>> Inquirer<https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pa-politics-geography-census-redistricting-data-20210815.html#loaded>:
>> An interesting in-depth analysis of the potential political
>> consequences of demographic changes in Pennsylvania—sadly, behind
>> a firewall. Two key points beyond the headline: “Philadelphia and
>> suburban Bucks, Chester, Delaware,… Continue reading
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124120>
>>
>>
>> “Protect Democracy Joins Defamation Suit Against Project Veritas:
>> Right-Wing Group Maliciously Lied About a PA Postmaster In the
>> Aftermath of 2020 Election”
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112516&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>>
>> /By Rick Hasen, August 16, 2021/
>>
>> Release:
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~protectdemocracy.org/update/protect-democracy-joins-ogg-murphy-perkosky-p-c-in-defamation-suit-against-project-veritas-right-wing-group-maliciously-lied-about-a-pa-postmaster-in-the-aftermath-of-2020-election/> Today,
>> a Pennsylvania judge granted a postmaster’s motion to file an
>> amended complaint in a lawsuit filed against the rightwing video
>> production house Project Veritas and several individuals. The
>> lawsuit concerns a series of defamatory videos, maliciously
>> produced and… Continue reading
>> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124121>
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