[EL] Newsom recall lawsuit
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Wed Aug 18 11:16:17 PDT 2021
All this talk about the process of selecting a successor governor is interesting from a legal standpoint and this after all is a law list. However, from a political standpoint the whole discussion could, and probably should be negated by considering a different set of “fixes” to the recall process. How about we create a line of succession so if there is a successful recall someone else moves into the position of governor until the next general election. Then anyone who wants to can become a candidate in his or her party primary, including the recalled governor. Other changes to the process are also discussed in https://www.thepoliticaldish.com/2021/06/deep-and-difficult-changes-are-needed-to-achieve-real-solutions-to-the-homeless-issue/
Larry Levine
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Chris writes, "If the process at step 2 were reasonably designed to choose a candidate with majority support or something close to it, then case for excluding a governor who failed at step 1 would be much stronger."
Related to that, a friend recently pointed out to me that one of the candidates on the ballot for step 2 (Dan Kapelovitz) has Ranked-Choice Voting as his lead platform position. I haven't looked for others.
- david h.
On 8/17/2021 2:57 PM, Christopher S. Elmendorf wrote:
Tom, I think the answer depends on whether you put a functional or formal gloss on the ballot access precedents (and treat qualifications as a form of ballot-access restriction).
On the formal view, Gov is automatically on ballot “at some stage” of recall process (the step 1 election), and a popular vote to recall at step 1 is a rational reason to disqualify him at step 2. Much like the “fresh blood” logic of term limits is a rational reason to disqualify a termed-out governor.
On functional view, the CA recall process as a whole – unlike normal gubernatorial elections s/t term limits – gives small political minorities a very good shot at putting a wildcard candidate in office. Given lottery-like nature of the vote at step 2, it’s not clear to me that willingness of 50%+1 of voters (at step 1) to choose the lottery is a good enough reason to exclude the governor from that lottery. If the process at step 2 were reasonably designed to choose a candidate with majority support or something close to it, then case for excluding a governor who failed at step 1 would be much stronger.
--Chris
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Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:04 PM
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If it's constitutional to deny ballot access to a governor on the basis that they have already served two terms (a prohibition itself adopted by voters), then why wouldn't it be constitutional to deny it on the basis of a majority of voters having just decided that they shall no longer be governor?
-Tom Cares
On Tue, 17 Aug 2021, 21:47 D. A. Holtzman, <d at lavotefire.org <mailto:d at lavotefire.org> > wrote:
Richard writes, "if a court wanted to, it could order the write-in tally for Newsom counted." But would a court be *allowed* to?
- david h.
On 8/17/2021 11:04 AM, Richard Winger wrote:
California permits write-in votes in the bottom half of recall elections. Although California requires write-in candidates to file a declaration of candidacy if they want their write-ins counted, nevertheless in theory Gavin Newsom and his supporters were always free to urge voters to write-in Gavin Newsom in the write-in space. Vote-counting equipment does electronically know which ballots have a write-in choice written in, and if a court wanted to, it could order the write-in tally for Newsom counted.
Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 11:00:06 AM PDT, Christopher S. Elmendorf <mailto:cselmendorf at ucdavis.edu> <cselmendorf at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
Apropos Ned’s post below, some of you may be interested in the exchange Michael Morley and I had about this via Twitter. (See here <https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1425689773058904071> and here <https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1425865285819457542> .) We both think the problem with the CA’s recall election procedure would be better analyzed through the lens of the ballot-access precedents, not 1p1v. I think there’s a constitutional problem; Michael is more skeptical.
Chris
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To build off Ned's post, and setting aside the major laches problem to this lawsuit, Vik Amar and Evan Caminker at Justia have a pretty thorough defense of California's process, a process that disqualifies a recalled governor from seeking… Continue ...
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