[EL] Newsom recall lawsuit
D. A. Holtzman
d at LAvoteFIRE.org
Wed Aug 18 11:01:26 PDT 2021
Chris writes, "If the process at step 2 were reasonably designed to
choose a candidate with majority support or something close to it, then
case for excluding a governor who failed at step 1 would be much stronger."
Related to that, a friend recently pointed out to me that one of the
candidates on the ballot for step 2 (Dan Kapelovitz) has Ranked-Choice
Voting as his lead platform position. I haven't looked for others.
- david h.
On 8/17/2021 2:57 PM, Christopher S. Elmendorf wrote:
>
> Tom, I think the answer depends on whether you put a functional or
> formal gloss on the ballot access precedents (and treat qualifications
> as a form of ballot-access restriction).
>
> On the formal view, Gov is automatically on ballot “at some stage” of
> recall process (the step 1 election), and a popular vote to recall at
> step 1 is a rational reason to disqualify him at step 2. Much like the
> “fresh blood” logic of term limits is a rational reason to disqualify
> a termed-out governor.
>
> On functional view, the CA recall process as a whole – unlike normal
> gubernatorial elections s/t term limits – gives small political
> minorities a very good shot at putting a wildcard candidate in office.
> Given lottery-like nature of the vote at step 2, it’s not clear to me
> that willingness of 50%+1 of voters (at step 1) to choose the lottery
> is a good enough reason to exclude the governor from that lottery. If
> the process at step 2 were reasonably designed to choose a candidate
> with majority support or something close to it, then case for
> excluding a governor who failed at step 1 would be much stronger.
>
> --Chris
>
> *From: *Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu>
> on behalf of Tom at TomCares.com <Tom at tomcares.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:04 PM
> *To: *Election Law <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject: *Re: [EL] Newsom recall lawsuit
>
> If it's constitutional to deny ballot access to a governor on the
> basis that they have already served two terms (a prohibition itself
> adopted by voters), then why wouldn't it be constitutional to deny it
> on the basis of a majority of voters having just decided that they
> shall no longer be governor?
>
> -Tom Cares
>
> On Tue, 17 Aug 2021, 21:47 D. A. Holtzman, <d at lavotefire.org
> <mailto:d at lavotefire.org>> wrote:
>
> Richard writes, "if a court wanted to, it could order the write-in
> tally for Newsom counted." But would a court be *allowed* to?
> - david h.
>
> On 8/17/2021 11:04 AM, Richard Winger wrote:
>
> California permits write-in votes in the bottom half of recall
> elections. Although California requires write-in candidates to
> file a declaration of candidacy if they want their write-ins
> counted, nevertheless in theory Gavin Newsom and his
> supporters were always free to urge voters to write-in Gavin
> Newsom in the write-in space. Vote-counting equipment does
> electronically know which ballots have a write-in choice
> written in, and if a court wanted to, it could order the
> write-in tally for Newsom counted.
>
> Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 11:00:06 AM PDT, Christopher S.
> Elmendorf <cselmendorf at ucdavis.edu>
> <mailto:cselmendorf at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>
> Apropos Ned’s post below, some of you may be interested in the
> exchange Michael Morley and I had about this via Twitter. (See
> here
> <https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1425689773058904071>
> and here
> <https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1425865285819457542>.)
> We both think the problem with the CA’s recall election
> procedure would be better analyzed through the lens of the
> ballot-access precedents, not 1p1v. I think there’s a
> constitutional problem; Michael is more skeptical.
>
> Chris
>
> ------
>
> Christopher S. Elmendorf
>
> Martin Luther King, Jr. Professor of Law
>
> UC Davis School of Law
>
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> *Date: *Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:36 AM
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> To build off Ned's post, and setting aside the major laches
> problem to this lawsuit, Vik Amar and Evan Caminker at Justia
> have a pretty thorough defense of California's process, a
> process that disqualifies a recalled governor from seeking…
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> 1. Qualifications for candidates running in California’s
> gubernatorial recall
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124133>
> 2. Newsom recall lawsuit
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124129>
> 3. Bernie Grofman: “How Best to do Prison Population Data
> Reallocation, i.e., How Best to Mitigate Prison
> Gerrymandering?”
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124127>
> 4. 2021 Election Law Teacher Database Now Available
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124125>
> 5. What new census data tell us about Pa.’s politics: More
> influence for Philly and Latinos, and a shrinking white
> vote
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124120>
> 6. “Protect Democracy Joins Defamation Suit Against Project
> Veritas: Right-Wing Group Maliciously Lied About a PA
> Postmaster In the Aftermath of 2020 Election”
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124121>
>
>
> Qualifications for candidates running in California’s
> gubernatorial recall
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112500&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> /By Derek Muller, August 17, 2021/
>
> To build off Ned
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124129>‘s
> post, and setting aside the major laches
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~reason.com/volokh/2020/11/27/laches-and-the-pennsylvania-election-litigation/>problem
> to this lawsuit, Vik Amar and Evan Caminker at Justia
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~verdict.justia.com/2021/08/16/deja-vu-all-over-again-californias-upcoming-recall-vote-for-governor-is-resurfacing-some-old-and-flawed-constitutional-critiques>have
> a pretty thorough defense of California’s process, a process
> that disqualifies a recalled governor from seeking… Continue
> reading
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124133>
>
>
> Newsom recall lawsuit
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112502&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
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> /By Ned Foley, August 17, 2021/
>
> Politico
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~www.politico.com/states/california/story/2021/08/16/federal-lawsuit-challenges-california-recall-as-unconstitutional-1390127>has
> a story on a new federal lawsuit raising a constitutional
> challenge to the procedures that California uses for its
> gubernatorial recall. The lawsuit follows upon a NY Times
> op-ed
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~www.nytimes.com/2021/08/11/opinion/california-recall-election-newsom.html>from
> last week by Erwin Chemerinsky and Aaron Edlin,… Continue
> reading
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124129>
>
>
> Bernie Grofman: “How Best to do Prison Population Data
> Reallocation, i.e., How Best to Mitigate Prison
> Gerrymandering?”
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112504&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> /By Rick Hasen, August 16, 2021/
>
> The following is a guest post from my UCI colleague Bernie
> Grofman
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/www.socsci.uci.edu/~bgrofman/>:
> There are now eleven states that committed to using data on
> past home addresses of prisoners and locating them for
> redistricting purposes not in the prison but… Continue reading
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124127>
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>
> 2021 Election Law Teacher Database Now Available
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112506&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> /By Rick Hasen, August 16, 2021/
>
> You can download it at this link
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/Election-Law-Database-2021.xlsx>.
>
>
>
> What new census data tell us about Pa.’s politics: More
> influence for Philly and Latinos, and a shrinking white vote
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112510&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> /By Tabatha Abu El-Haj, August 16, 2021/
>
> From Jonathan Tamari and Jonathan Lai at the Philadelphia
> Inquirer
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pa-politics-geography-census-redistricting-data-20210815.html#loaded>:
> An interesting in-depth analysis of the potential political
> consequences of demographic changes in Pennsylvania—sadly,
> behind a firewall. Two key points beyond the headline:
> “Philadelphia and suburban Bucks, Chester, Delaware,… Continue
> reading
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124120>
>
>
> “Protect Democracy Joins Defamation Suit Against Project
> Veritas: Right-Wing Group Maliciously Lied About a PA
> Postmaster In the Aftermath of 2020 Election”
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112516&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> /By Rick Hasen, August 16, 2021/
>
> Release:
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~protectdemocracy.org/update/protect-democracy-joins-ogg-murphy-perkosky-p-c-in-defamation-suit-against-project-veritas-right-wing-group-maliciously-lied-about-a-pa-postmaster-in-the-aftermath-of-2020-election/> Today,
> a Pennsylvania judge granted a postmaster’s motion to file an
> amended complaint in a lawsuit filed against the rightwing
> video production house Project Veritas and several
> individuals. The lawsuit concerns a series of defamatory
> videos, maliciously produced and… Continue reading
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