[EL] Inslee bill to make lying punishable

Chris Hughes chris.hughes at rcvresources.org
Mon Jan 10 10:29:17 PST 2022


Can you share a link to that poll?

sent from my phone

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 8:50 AM Smith, Bradley <BSmith at law.capital.edu> wrote:

> Despite five years of non-stop drumbeat about how Republicans are
> “authoritarian,” prepping for a 2024 “coup,” “suppressing the vote,” and
> generally “anti-democracy,” a recent poll found that, by an 11 point
> plurality, voters were more likely to consider Democrats than Republicans
> as a threat to democracy.
>
> This is the sort of thing that explains why.
>
>
> Brad Smith
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 8, 2022, at 10:32 PM, David Segal <davidadamsegal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>    ** [ This email originated outside of Capital University ] **
>
>
> Oh boy. If you read toward the end of the article he tries to walk it back
> from the brink a bit by basically merging it into something approaching
> incitement. Though I think you'd need intent and something stronger than
> mere "potential" to get there. (Presumably Washington has something on the
> books about incitement to violence already that would make this at best
> redundant?)
>
> In an interview Thursday afternoon, the governor said that for the gross
> misdemeanor to kick in, there would have to be “knowledge that there’s
> potential to create violence.”
> For that reason, Inslee said he believes it’s constitutional and won’t run
> afoul of prior court rulings.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 8:52 PM John Tanner <john.k.tanner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>  This reminds me of my favorite legal brief of all time.
>> https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/sba-list-merits-filed-brief.pdf
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.cato.org%2fsites%2fcato.org%2ffiles%2fpubs%2fpdf%2fsba-list-merits-filed-brief.pdf&c=E,1,kCgs6fECVJ-DTLOVYpGG8_82kzv3WoqyxVVKWdtvM0MpD5Vk1Zuh9eYLTebbDYgcQepo6tGxlCtzhOo49jkiYqhTX6lgtQMKCfSoZAzRIopw7CapgXkcMw,,&typo=1>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Election Law Blog <rhasen at law.uci.edu>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 8, 2022 8:32:08 AM (UTC-08:00) Pacific Time
>> (US & Canada)
>> *To:* Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu>
>> *Subject:* Election Law Blog: ELB News and Commentary
>>
>> As Rick posted yesterday, our colleague Lani Guinier has passed. Lani was
>> a voting rights scholar.  She was the first Black woman to serve as a
>> tenured faculty member at Harvard Law School.  Her commitment to truth and
>> ideas… Continue reading
>>
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>> Election Law Blog: ELB News and Commentary
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>    1. Remembering Lani Guinier
>>    <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516%2fhttps%3a%2f%2felectionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126792&c=E,1,kQlvVcoX3pgLP38UoXJ716GAvDwmmBI0hSDpgLIH-m3xFyBkONdP12tMhC8xnlgj3hp77uT1OYPdMQ6hf0gNbiYJXIu0Ko-GIHhbRmkYeUHP&typo=1>
>>    2. “Cyber Ninjas, firm that led Arizona ballot review, is closed, CEO
>>    confirms”
>>    <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516%2fhttps%3a%2f%2felectionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126790&c=E,1,tuD39-1VV4AdNaMr96dDNgamFnQVIsHs0sahhdGrzDxuj8IFT9GCmSzga6ZmGq_I3eNy1IplaVHXkRmTdnQQegSTaQY8m2HVddQbB4F-V3ApNIw,&typo=1>
>>    3. Nick Stephanopoulos Primary ELB Blogger Next Week
>>    <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516%2fhttps%3a%2f%2felectionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126787&c=E,1,1XQr32h5z3RWiY9Q4Q9kpABOEu1wwXkVRCWQFCw61IW6RbSbwavkxEnKZdqqkPaUIkoGQvIasqINHtw73RtPUumYiUgn3BHSxLsJWSg38gHgbmm_2wNWRHE,&typo=1>
>>    4. Washington State: “Inslee will support bill to make lying by
>>    elected officials, candidates about election results punishable by law”
>>    <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516%2fhttps%3a%2f%2felectionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126785&c=E,1,QRjXWWYWX41KLd-WGiS1KlPvCA2kJeecLKUsaoltShdOxpxVvbAqOzZMEEFoRSgpHZgqMogeZvyv1vMQSTej85aWBUNy0luLTk9hy25I4IJueDc,&typo=1>
>>    5. Shameless
>>    <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516%2fhttps%3a%2f%2felectionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126782&c=E,1,XV8w-x9hFigV8IcuprQLzfWItOHrkjQG9eC0dmRgmYYgr7sWP_CTe0MWHAM2A1g7iwqmDRYlt7xi58ecsoE-kny0NdoRemHvJNwzh3KBq4LrZy75fgrILTpO&typo=1>
>>    6. Colbert’s “The Late Show” Takes on the One Year Anniversary of
>>    Jan. 6 Insurrection
>>    <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516%2fhttps%3a%2f%2felectionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126780&c=E,1,iyrqDyelJ5shQW_36XMQWrhCWUV8FZEp2Jk13ogSf3CBHODV-okIRk8k6CtgKE6qwM2JqjaLNe7QaxLmi5tRCwLwHfq9QVaAqg1LKE8mkwPlTWlpYt1FRQ,,&typo=1>
>>    7. Very Sad News: Lani Guinier Has Died
>>    <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516%2fhttps%3a%2f%2felectionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126778&c=E,1,QkDTerl0-_3qvPlJWtT7i2w4mZFSU9xbHElCTtjUcR5oIuwRMAnEyPqxRo-pFqopjx_7whc72WuvkDyC9wymvjPTvx6SjnPQBxuixS7wEl0QGGGZTLutBjIRF1k,&typo=1>
>>    8. Renewing America Series: The Growing Divide—Polarization in the
>>    United States
>>    <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516%2fhttps%3a%2f%2felectionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126776&c=E,1,FADX2VED1llmdxfleg9JJs57w9W_vZFbbjfnbiPjRgrpYM5oj3iRVO97gpOwVlt6T6JCggEArUM-QP_8P-yZ3AyyrdZzn8EFkHLXc48rbs_mnwaTbDCI9gO1ZXfE&typo=1>
>>
>>
>> Remembering Lani Guinier
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145834%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,grNVxe3vZaNp_DAWUqamb-7vJp3_8zGkGVB-j1FyE2boGE7DDKoIDqujptHd80FhfOo8FL7RjCBajDPZGc2n1yBilZUswNUbbbWorp6ImMon&typo=1>
>> By Spencer Overton, January 08, 2022
>> As Rick posted yesterday
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~electionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126778&c=E,1,qsjcFfwMGBPjDkMruA-HOSjK02njiJ0INgHs5I04ntsvO5N719AZrf6z9wCYE2rh257dsdO4-LtyUlzf2KyZhurYnLMd-kjz987KU_so1PAcl20aqv9AaQ,,&typo=1>,
>> our colleague Lani Guinier has passed. Lani was a voting rights scholar.
>> She was the first Black woman to serve as a tenured faculty member at
>> Harvard Law School.  Her commitment to truth and ideas… Continue reading
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~electionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126792&c=E,1,IIp3NbX7qxfT9en3vKtRI8hTvIH_NVWBnPa2ITM6IWhCOhMcm5KsRBO-xGO7YIxkgZIacUM-_ginysw4bSm5MnT9IhA4V2MhTiPXIN2Mo60EEcDRK72iHD-_dNM,&typo=1>
>>
>> “Cyber Ninjas, firm that led Arizona ballot review, is closed, CEO
>> confirms”
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145838%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,qG3fotpc4v8mtq7FTz0MmiUDvC5VfyIp-py_wgZI57Mg6xgxBg8NrYzvTSWCdqxU3G8afr3LR0tRRyX5NLLlZojByKOku0czyUYq_ndi&typo=1>
>> By Rick Hasen, January 07, 2022
>> Arizona Republic
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~www.azcentral.com%2fstory%2fnews%2fpolitics%2felections%2f2022%2f01%2f07%2fcyber-ninjas-firm-led-arizona-ballot-review-closed%2f8634921002%2f&c=E,1,xlks9QuxjO_nNyZMWLsPVwxhj8ry16D7E9ZCVtROAPERjaiRNr0fYLDY_wdgv0nqRpV9EqXAkhwLGGTWFdBXWBtL0tPEtszS0V6zaXPbZM__&typo=1>:
>> The CEO of the Florida cybersecurity company that conducted a highly
>> contested election review in Arizona confirmed Friday that his company has
>> closed and laid off its employees.News of the closure had reached Arizona
>> on Thursday… Continue reading
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~electionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126790&c=E,1,7zGIIXgcAfNscwU7kdTVGIQpAhinq5m-fi1lYgZzmEypLhDzOS46T48ioGWrHjPUl-LghoUSKifdJqke4sv5L4UFVZBuV7E3-X7ovCQ45L9-I_s,&typo=1>
>>
>> Nick Stephanopoulos Primary ELB Blogger Next Week
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145840%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,mmcn55xMASVNRixi1pa9LEYZrw8hcsmLtqeyaJY43o_A06nZnWiQje9eBWEjewCFZQoCxTy3dkc-30624RNXbON0AJvaDrxyd_Q_gwcb5VpRJqRwn3lFdkQ,&typo=1>
>> By Rick Hasen, January 07, 2022
>> Please direct your pitches and tips to him.
>>
>> Washington State: “Inslee will support bill to make lying by elected
>> officials, candidates about election results punishable by law”
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145842%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,Hn-blQHr7xUmmT9qMlBu6Yg0BmDeHeuzPYJC2xCVIjvW0GvUk24y-JcpssCtnKeZN1DYt_45gsP3wVqVIzRflCAEENR7uUGLPcpMoeIS4qE4&typo=1>
>> By Rick Hasen, January 07, 2022
>> Seattle Times:
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~www.seattletimes.com%2fseattle-news%2fpolitics%2fgov-jay-inslee-to-support-bill-to-make-lies-by-elected-officials-candidates-about-election-results-a-gross-misdemeanor%2f&c=E,1,GmG49qdoWV8kvltyzSz4xfP5CYPXgcMUAWSrPZAzPqsbVW1SfeWfepf2UlL6FutEaj2VAEDJ_c0OXW0asP9cNzwB1uPTvtPcgZ7IALQUwUmn-4fmEg,,&typo=1>
>> Gov. Jay Inslee Thursday called on Washington state lawmakers to pass
>> legislation making it a gross misdemeanor for some to spread lies about
>> election results and warned of an ongoing danger to the nation’s democratic
>> system.During a… Continue reading
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~electionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126785&c=E,1,WRhcIlWT-0VPRbxFU8kadmR2OrGDfnDd1ZA2-hFayGl4PQ5J9sv1ax9mEjRKjQtPQHMEFUeWuAQoeEi59fuWS-it9-IlOdThafWCWjtRU3VoQoJHOLIldBTI&typo=1>
>>
>> Shameless
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145844%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,X7aX76TTyeSW8YyYChBjnj6w6bF7Ulppl3nfRMQDwyHyCx2QApMv4UkzczzNU92r28XAoDi40hmKw15sMtvf5Mzr5TJtOmIbXO8UeQhm6ZHjbj0A&typo=1>
>> By Rick Hasen, January 07, 2022
>>
>> Colbert’s “The Late Show” Takes on the One Year Anniversary of Jan. 6
>> Insurrection
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145846%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,U3j_OwSUtcizFmstNKk_3E691vkUX2Sv_TydFcw-mt5X9HhfRdySDot8u7Gh2KozBwwjkcyFZiD3dWjcdTstK3NffS0Q_hMD8sLYw199v5ot2xCM1l4NjoEnexw,&typo=1>
>> By Rick Hasen, January 07, 2022
>> Watch:
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~twitter.com%2fcolbertlateshow%2fstatus%2f1479236427674234881%3fs%3d20&c=E,1,zgdSgbrvTHNutCZ8vhKv3RF40TymSERRGGFUwcp5cED6OrIGNdnAjsa4mBLRvPKm7gZ7WRDpI4ohIt17q5tczHvnh7GBAh7gDvEHUJ_5&typo=1>
>> On #LSSC
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~twitter.com%2fhashtag%2fLSSC%3fsrc%3dhash%26ref_src%3dtwsrc%255Etfw&c=E,1,uGSShKH3ckHrufRC2UYIhK8W5FHt5W3posz6SMxQjZv8qiJQ4jQcY3eI8nGE3y9uC_B_wv0FmZapjY-EEHr3HTtlvFomcKQ3xjHM0E5pHVOXcmKPWWTncG0,&typo=1>
>> tonight: We look back on the abhorrent day of January 6th, 2021.
>> pic.twitter.com/yvuEGW47qY
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~t.co%2fyvuEGW47qY&c=E,1,Q3M7Ymsp4VKcMEqmOMGQI-Q3oqId0pHbjGIY3FRdub949JxJe-41erAHomOvbJ7GYRZ3Vo0J2GB5wxeONyOodk7P-gh4JCLv2V6WycbaOlOBK14,&typo=1>—
>> The Late Show (@colbertlateshow) January 6, 2022
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~twitter.com%2fcolbertlateshow%2fstatus%2f1479236427674234881%3fref_src%3dtwsrc%255Etfw&c=E,1,htldKeGOqaESVbf-gNxqSWcrIEqGdB1HMNzSsNUC4p1QrkyPOF2D6ZUhTRB1zTQBlyFOr3kDKBGD0gaNnOjTcQGOQaLXupKE-2EDgkOQkgfFZw,,&typo=1>
>>
>> Very Sad News: Lani Guinier Has Died
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145852%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,L1BKciT1tIrbjUgutFLYoqFOYXFE7cfcZXhJ_i3cSbGsMb8lWyXw2R_UmpJSULweCLP1Ik0YvrP8x28LH8J8b6GS8AEFjQzafGNSxuYhCILII-pj8LhBRrPN&typo=1>
>> By Rick Hasen, January 07, 2022
>> This very sad new
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~twitter.com%2fjohnson_carrie%2fstatus%2f1479540679848116229%3fs%3d20&c=E,1,_nmrK1UvnvSZJ7eRSPYRlt0CZX6WsegVZGzKhjM0Gf1ICp69aTyFqhoe7cTGGj3mtAwfqcwQV-AeOxo4HqaWC-tGGYimnrOi0ss1aseWBfMuUfW5MmTEXnI,&typo=1>s
>> comes about a true leader among scholars in thinking about democracy, race
>> and fair representation. Just a tremendous loss to the election law
>> community. Condolences to her family and friends.
>>
>> Renewing America Series: The Growing Divide—Polarization in the United
>> States
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145856%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,HEbL2timA2e6weAVaH5Y4bbf419pKmO5iy5yAe_9wIVm8GfJMP84y8ievmeOhbRcek4-ANBWXGv11DL-V7l6PcB3km0FkKRWvpLsMZ2riG5YbwKhW8w,&typo=1>
>> By Ned Foley, January 07, 2022
>> I was honored to be part of this Council of Foreign Relations
>> conversation yesterday
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~www.cfr.org%2fevent%2frenewing-america-series-growing-divide-polarization-united-states&c=E,1,biyMV2Mr39y2NWlCfECr2oJAdgTM44sgsyMuQ4BeEG4xNfv0v-XX3CMZKxsreuftvNpboKLgUtymfSy2zsgmx9WOW26fLty15C6qJMYr&typo=1>
>> (video and transcript now available), moderated by Amy Davidson Sorkin of
>> The New Yorker, with Barton Gellman of The Atlantic and Lilliana Mason of
>> Johns Hopkins.… Continue reading
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~electionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126776&c=E,1,1nRICrn0J-wPBjRaLk4ALMEXaN9dxe1cYHfzprcaZErnU6ADacBpJFiyncROZYW4etGk7gZmTEg-r9VjrpbZapXwnndfONSO5BlXgdYI67gRvn51iA,,&typo=1>
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