[EL] Inslee bill to make lying punishable

Sun Jan 9 05:50:24 PST 2022

Despite five years of non-stop drumbeat about how Republicans are “authoritarian,” prepping for a 2024 “coup,” “suppressing the vote,” and generally “anti-democracy,” a recent poll found that, by an 11 point plurality, voters were more likely to consider Democrats than Republicans as a threat to democracy.

This is the sort of thing that explains why.

Brad Smith
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On Jan 8, 2022, at 10:32 PM, David Segal <davidadamsegal at gmail.com> wrote:

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Oh boy. If you read toward the end of the article he tries to walk it back from the brink a bit by basically merging it into something approaching incitement. Though I think you'd need intent and something stronger than mere "potential" to get there. (Presumably Washington has something on the books about incitement to violence already that would make this at best redundant?)

In an interview Thursday afternoon, the governor said that for the gross misdemeanor to kick in, there would have to be “knowledge that there’s potential to create violence.”
For that reason, Inslee said he believes it’s constitutional and won’t run afoul of prior court rulings.

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 8:52 PM John Tanner <john.k.tanner at gmail.com<mailto:john.k.tanner at gmail.com>> wrote:

 This reminds me of my favorite legal brief of all time.  https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/sba-list-merits-filed-brief.pdf<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.cato.org%2fsites%2fcato.org%2ffiles%2fpubs%2fpdf%2fsba-list-merits-filed-brief.pdf&c=E,1,kCgs6fECVJ-DTLOVYpGG8_82kzv3WoqyxVVKWdtvM0MpD5Vk1Zuh9eYLTebbDYgcQepo6tGxlCtzhOo49jkiYqhTX6lgtQMKCfSoZAzRIopw7CapgXkcMw,,&typo=1>

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On Jan 8, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu<mailto:rhasen at law.uci.edu>> wrote:

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As Rick posted yesterday, our colleague Lani Guinier has passed. Lani was a voting rights scholar.  She was the first Black woman to serve as a tenured faculty member at Harvard Law School.  Her commitment to truth and ideas… Continue reading
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  5.  Shameless<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516%2fhttps%3a%2f%2felectionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126782&c=E,1,XV8w-x9hFigV8IcuprQLzfWItOHrkjQG9eC0dmRgmYYgr7sWP_CTe0MWHAM2A1g7iwqmDRYlt7xi58ecsoE-kny0NdoRemHvJNwzh3KBq4LrZy75fgrILTpO&typo=1>
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Remembering Lani Guinier<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145834%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,grNVxe3vZaNp_DAWUqamb-7vJp3_8zGkGVB-j1FyE2boGE7DDKoIDqujptHd80FhfOo8FL7RjCBajDPZGc2n1yBilZUswNUbbbWorp6ImMon&typo=1>
By Spencer Overton, January 08, 2022
As Rick posted yesterday<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~electionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126778&c=E,1,qsjcFfwMGBPjDkMruA-HOSjK02njiJ0INgHs5I04ntsvO5N719AZrf6z9wCYE2rh257dsdO4-LtyUlzf2KyZhurYnLMd-kjz987KU_so1PAcl20aqv9AaQ,,&typo=1>, our colleague Lani Guinier has passed. Lani was a voting rights scholar.  She was the first Black woman to serve as a tenured faculty member at Harvard Law School.  Her commitment to truth and ideas… Continue reading <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~electionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126792&c=E,1,IIp3NbX7qxfT9en3vKtRI8hTvIH_NVWBnPa2ITM6IWhCOhMcm5KsRBO-xGO7YIxkgZIacUM-_ginysw4bSm5MnT9IhA4V2MhTiPXIN2Mo60EEcDRK72iHD-_dNM,&typo=1>

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Arizona Republic<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~www.azcentral.com%2fstory%2fnews%2fpolitics%2felections%2f2022%2f01%2f07%2fcyber-ninjas-firm-led-arizona-ballot-review-closed%2f8634921002%2f&c=E,1,xlks9QuxjO_nNyZMWLsPVwxhj8ry16D7E9ZCVtROAPERjaiRNr0fYLDY_wdgv0nqRpV9EqXAkhwLGGTWFdBXWBtL0tPEtszS0V6zaXPbZM__&typo=1>: The CEO of the Florida cybersecurity company that conducted a highly contested election review in Arizona confirmed Friday that his company has closed and laid off its employees.News of the closure had reached Arizona on Thursday… Continue reading <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~electionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126790&c=E,1,7zGIIXgcAfNscwU7kdTVGIQpAhinq5m-fi1lYgZzmEypLhDzOS46T48ioGWrHjPUl-LghoUSKifdJqke4sv5L4UFVZBuV7E3-X7ovCQ45L9-I_s,&typo=1>

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Please direct your pitches and tips to him.

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Seattle Times:<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~www.seattletimes.com%2fseattle-news%2fpolitics%2fgov-jay-inslee-to-support-bill-to-make-lies-by-elected-officials-candidates-about-election-results-a-gross-misdemeanor%2f&c=E,1,GmG49qdoWV8kvltyzSz4xfP5CYPXgcMUAWSrPZAzPqsbVW1SfeWfepf2UlL6FutEaj2VAEDJ_c0OXW0asP9cNzwB1uPTvtPcgZ7IALQUwUmn-4fmEg,,&typo=1> Gov. Jay Inslee Thursday called on Washington state lawmakers to pass legislation making it a gross misdemeanor for some to spread lies about election results and warned of an ongoing danger to the nation’s democratic system.During a… Continue reading <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~electionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126785&c=E,1,WRhcIlWT-0VPRbxFU8kadmR2OrGDfnDd1ZA2-hFayGl4PQ5J9sv1ax9mEjRKjQtPQHMEFUeWuAQoeEi59fuWS-it9-IlOdThafWCWjtRU3VoQoJHOLIldBTI&typo=1>

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By Rick Hasen, January 07, 2022

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By Rick Hasen, January 07, 2022
Watch:<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~twitter.com%2fcolbertlateshow%2fstatus%2f1479236427674234881%3fs%3d20&c=E,1,zgdSgbrvTHNutCZ8vhKv3RF40TymSERRGGFUwcp5cED6OrIGNdnAjsa4mBLRvPKm7gZ7WRDpI4ohIt17q5tczHvnh7GBAh7gDvEHUJ_5&typo=1> On #LSSC<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~twitter.com%2fhashtag%2fLSSC%3fsrc%3dhash%26ref_src%3dtwsrc%255Etfw&c=E,1,uGSShKH3ckHrufRC2UYIhK8W5FHt5W3posz6SMxQjZv8qiJQ4jQcY3eI8nGE3y9uC_B_wv0FmZapjY-EEHr3HTtlvFomcKQ3xjHM0E5pHVOXcmKPWWTncG0,&typo=1> tonight: We look back on the abhorrent day of January 6th, 2021. pic.twitter.com/yvuEGW47qY<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~t.co%2fyvuEGW47qY&c=E,1,Q3M7Ymsp4VKcMEqmOMGQI-Q3oqId0pHbjGIY3FRdub949JxJe-41erAHomOvbJ7GYRZ3Vo0J2GB5wxeONyOodk7P-gh4JCLv2V6WycbaOlOBK14,&typo=1>— The Late Show (@colbertlateshow) January 6, 2022<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~twitter.com%2fcolbertlateshow%2fstatus%2f1479236427674234881%3fref_src%3dtwsrc%255Etfw&c=E,1,htldKeGOqaESVbf-gNxqSWcrIEqGdB1HMNzSsNUC4p1QrkyPOF2D6ZUhTRB1zTQBlyFOr3kDKBGD0gaNnOjTcQGOQaLXupKE-2EDgkOQkgfFZw,,&typo=1>

Very Sad News: Lani Guinier Has Died<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145852%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,L1BKciT1tIrbjUgutFLYoqFOYXFE7cfcZXhJ_i3cSbGsMb8lWyXw2R_UmpJSULweCLP1Ik0YvrP8x28LH8J8b6GS8AEFjQzafGNSxuYhCILII-pj8LhBRrPN&typo=1>
By Rick Hasen, January 07, 2022
This very sad new<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~twitter.com%2fjohnson_carrie%2fstatus%2f1479540679848116229%3fs%3d20&c=E,1,_nmrK1UvnvSZJ7eRSPYRlt0CZX6WsegVZGzKhjM0Gf1ICp69aTyFqhoe7cTGGj3mtAwfqcwQV-AeOxo4HqaWC-tGGYimnrOi0ss1aseWBfMuUfW5MmTEXnI,&typo=1>s comes about a true leader among scholars in thinking about democracy, race and fair representation. Just a tremendous loss to the election law community. Condolences to her family and friends.

Renewing America Series: The Growing Divide—Polarization in the United States<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2fr3.asp%3fl%3d183145856%26f%3d1116553%26c%3d8127516%26u%3d102231511&c=E,1,HEbL2timA2e6weAVaH5Y4bbf419pKmO5iy5yAe_9wIVm8GfJMP84y8ievmeOhbRcek4-ANBWXGv11DL-V7l6PcB3km0FkKRWvpLsMZ2riG5YbwKhW8w,&typo=1>
By Ned Foley, January 07, 2022
I was honored to be part of this Council of Foreign Relations conversation yesterday<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~www.cfr.org%2fevent%2frenewing-america-series-growing-divide-polarization-united-states&c=E,1,biyMV2Mr39y2NWlCfECr2oJAdgTM44sgsyMuQ4BeEG4xNfv0v-XX3CMZKxsreuftvNpboKLgUtymfSy2zsgmx9WOW26fLty15C6qJMYr&typo=1> (video and transcript now available), moderated by Amy Davidson Sorkin of The New Yorker, with Barton Gellman of The Atlantic and Lilliana Mason of Johns Hopkins.… Continue reading <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fp.feedblitz.com%2ft3.asp%3f%2f1116553%2f102231511%2f8127516_%2f~electionlawblog.org%2f%3fp%3d126776&c=E,1,1nRICrn0J-wPBjRaLk4ALMEXaN9dxe1cYHfzprcaZErnU6ADacBpJFiyncROZYW4etGk7gZmTEg-r9VjrpbZapXwnndfONSO5BlXgdYI67gRvn51iA,,&typo=1>
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